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Hi dragonfly, Quite a strong response you gave about my Seventh Day Adventist example. Please correct me if I'm reading too much into your response but are you, or were you ever an Adventist? As for the accusation of looking at scriptures with biased eyes, well, we each see each other as being...

Hi dragonfly, Regarding forgiveness, my point about Epi's gospel is he preaches condemnation/death for any believers who are not living a perfect lifestyle continually. The soul that sins, dies. This contradicts forgiveness 7x70. And remember we define sin differently. You see it as imperfect...

Hi Son of Man, And what are these works? Believe on Jesus, John 6:29. This is what the thief on the cross who called Jesus 'Lord' did. If you deny these works, looking for perfection in the flesh, you deny Him.

Howdy Axehead, My hope is that you do boast in Jesus. So how can people show by 'works' that they deny Him? Gal 2:18 For if I build again those things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor. Gal 3:3 Are you so foolish? Having begun in the Spirit, are you now being made perfect by...

Hi dragonfly, You obsess over standards of perfection for us in this imperfect physical state and promote Epi’s gospel of judgement/condemnation/death. But, what are God’s standards? 1John 3:23 Believe on Jesus and Love one another. In loving one another we keep His commandments stated above...

Hi dragonfly, Sorry for my delay in answering. As I’ve mentioned before I don’t have a lot of time here and your long posts with so many points/questions takes time to respond to. In addition it’s winter here and I’m one of the many here who have caught a bad cold. Hopefully my post will be...

Hi dragonfly, Just a quick answer as it's late here and I really need to do my back exercises too. Christ is our firstfruit (1Cor 15:20). And 'if the firstfruit is holy, the lump is also holy', Rom 11:16 Now the thief on the cross who called Jesus 'Lord' had Christ the firstfruit and he was...

Hi dragonfly, You could have just given me that list I asked for on what you believe we need to be perfect in. You know I'm going to keep on asking for that list....don't you? BTW, there is no objection to the term 'perfect'. For by one offering he hath perfected forever them that are...

Hi dragonfly, Regarding Rom 1:17 faith to faith refers to always believing on Jesus from beginning to end. 'For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, Eph 2:8 'I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the...

Hi dragonfly, You asked for clarification of 'perfect'. It's probably better you explain this as it's your gospel that demands this. I have used that term regarding lifestyle in an effort to find a happy medium that is acceptable to you guys. No offence, but the deliberate 'obfuscated'...

Hi Son of Man, Why would you think I speak of continuning in sin? You misunderstand. Whilst I agree with whistone that God makes changes in us, I differ with his gospel that without a perfect lifestyle one is not abiding in Christ and faces death for sin. Noting whitestone's imperfect...

Hi Axehead, Is that how you really see the gospel? Do you really see that believing Jesus is the Christ and calling him 'Lord', is nothing more than (to use your own words) a "magic word and God cannot help but be OBLIGATED to the MAGIC word!" It seems that Jesus Christ is truly a stumbling...

Hi Epi, And many will say 'Lord, Lord' in that day and He will say 'depart from me I never knew you'. Your efforts here on this forum have consistently been to undermine the faith of those believing on Jesus. You accuse them of believing in fantasy unless they follow your gospel of a perfect...

Hi Epi, Yes, the Lord can do it ! And He DID do it in believers ! Here's an example that God provided (in advance) that contradicts your gospel. God knew your gospel would come up so provided this example to counter it. The thief on the cross (on his deathbed) called Jesus "Lord". He was...

Hi brother dave, As you know, both sides of this debate speak of different gospels. Under grace we see the following. John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:18 He who believes...

Hi brother dave, I see you've been set upon by those here who say they know Christ but in works they deny him. Continue preaching on God's grace regardless. Sadly, the works crowd here are walking after the flesh. They oppose themselves and all others in their rebellion and deceit. Unless they...

Hi brother dave, I liked the blueberry example of the works crowd here. It's fitting, especially for Epi and Prentis.

Hi Axehead, The difference between your gospel and that which applied to the thief on the cross is that you add works of perfection in lifestyle/behavior as proof of abiding in Christ. Maybe God gave this example in scripture (of the thief on the cross) knowing that deceivers would come after...

Hi dragonfly, I'm not bothered with rejecting the false gospel of Epi. I am contending with the likes of Epi and Co who preach a false gospel beyond what was evidenced when the thief on the cross called Jesus 'Lord'. You support the preaching here by Epi and Co. accusing others here who do...

AMEN ! The 'ploys', 'obfuscation', 'complicated', 'ambiguous', tactics used by the likes of Epi, Prentis and Co, has been recognized by many here. It's just like we see in Eph 4:14 'the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting'. Interesting that their false gospel...