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avoice, Here is a correction for you. Sometimes we get our thoughts a little jumbled up. It happens to all of us. You said: "secondly the idea Daniel 70th week is past and stopping of the daily was fulfilled in 167 A.D. by ANTIOCHUS IV., EPIPHANES is wrong," zeke25 reply: I haven't seen that...

Cooter, Thank you for contributing. It sounds as if you probably have more information that would be helpful. zeke25

Keras, I don't have time to address all of your Scriptures at this time. I'm on the edge of a long trip. Nevertheless, the answer to your Daniel's 70th week dilemma has been posted here and you are ignoring it. Your calculations of the time to the end of the 69th week are only 3 ½ years...

He who has ears to hear, let him hear.

HammerStone, Please refer to Keras' post #98 on page 4 of this post. Keras is no longer talking about just eschatology. He is talking about essential doctrine. Will you reconsider your previous actions? Will you admit that he is now talking about essential doctrine? Will you renounce him not...

whitestone, Keras, on page 1 post #8 gave a partial answer. He believes the reinstated sacrifices will be for purification. I guess the Blood of Christ was not sufficient???? That certainly flies in the face of the gospel. This also means he supports reinstated sacrifices. Will he...

JesusIsFaithful, I'm not advocating for sabbath keeping, as you can clearly see from the many posts I've made on this thread. However, it does not strengthen your argument to advocate that Christ rose from the dead on Sunday morning when all four gospels teach that He rose Saturday night. The...

DP, If you make the mistake in thinking that the gospel accounts are chronological, when they are not (such as Matthew 24) then it doesn't make sense. But since the Abomination of Desolation is clearly defined in the verses I gave, then one must look further to explain what appear to be...

Thanks whitestone for engaging the subject. I'm a little pressed for time and I didn't know when I could get to it.

Thanks for trying to be the peacemaker, but these fellows do not want peace. I have shown that their sacred cow has no milk. So, they continue to threaten with ridicule and now the latest threat is to remove those who oppose their erroneous viewpoint. So, much for honest debate. They cannot...

Proverbs 8:13 KJV, "The fear of [Yahowah] is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate." Proverbs 9:8 KJV, "Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee: rebuke a wise man, and he will love thee." I doubt that you will hear from me again. I do not want...

I've heard this teaching with my own hears and sat in a home with a man who propagated it. I spoke with him on more than one occasion in more than one state. A sly deceiver he was. He began teaching, around 1995, about red moons, etc. Said he would shut his ministry down if he was wrong. His...

straightshot, You have posts #32 and #51 (para 9 - all of it) with Scriptural proof that the 70th week has come and gone. Yet, without any Scriptural proof, you just make a blanket statement that the 70th week is in the future. Why? Is God's word meaningless to you? Where is your text proof...

Matthew, Mark, and Luke tell us exactly what the abomination of desolation is. But you must read them together and you must discern the time frame. Matthew 24:15-16 KJV, “15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place...

toknowthetruth, Abomination of Desolation defined. Matthew, Mark, and Luke tell us exactly what the abomination of desolation is. But you must read them together and you must discern the time frame. Matthew 24:15-16 KJV, “15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of...

straightshot, You say the 70th week is still pending. Please read post #51, all of paragraph 9. This explains that Daniel's 70th week has already transpired. What Scripture can you offer to justify saying that the 70th week is still in our future? zeke25

Job 41:34 KJV, " He beholdeth all high things: he is a king over all the children of pride." Psalm 73 Truly God is good to Israel, even to such as are of a clean heart. 2 But as for me, my feet were almost gone; my steps had well nigh slipped. 3 For I was envious at the foolish, when I saw...

Dan57, Can you please provide a Scripture that supports your contention. Thx, zeke25

ATP, You said: "It has to happen supernaturally". How right you are. Christ's continually building the 3rd temple is a supernatural event. The Muslims cannot change this. Ezekiel's prophecies were made before the 2nd temple was built. It's a fine line to walk through all the prophecies that...

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