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  1. Wrangler

    Are Christians Better Off Being Ruled By Unbelievers?

    Read this article. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/archbishop-vigano-open-letter-american-catholics-kamala-harris/ If Christians chose not to participate in the political process, embrace an overly spiritualized religion, abdicate their moral duty to vote, the inescapable conclusion...
  2. Wrangler

    Does The Bible Allow Slavery?

    Came across Lev 22:11, if a priest acquires anyone through purchase, the person may eat of them. EDIT: Verse 11.
  3. Wrangler

    Luke, Ali, Jesus and Redemption Via Love of Father

    I watched a fascinating video last night about the great fictional hero, Luke Skywalker. One of the brilliant points reminded me of the famous quote by Muhammad ali "I don't have to be what you want me to be" for the vid explained everyone pressured him to kill his father; the dogmatic Yoda and...
  4. Wrangler

    Which is it; Keep Still or Go Forward?

    Today's devotional reading covered Ex 14. In v 13-15, YHWH says both, to stand firm (stand still) and go forward. How to make sense of this?
  5. Wrangler

    A darkness that can be felt

    This thread is for those who've experienced a darkness that can be felt. This is the end of the sentence in Exodus, Chapter 10, verse 21 in the NRSV: "A darkness that can be felt." Today's devotional reading struck me in comparison to a verse I reference a lot these days. Isaiah 5:20 "Woe to...
  6. Wrangler

    Why I Would Not Like Jesus

    If you are easily offended stop reading now. I'm not sure what forum this should be in. I put it in the Ethics and Morality forum because the basis of my dislike is grounded in a sacred cow, lying of the Messiah. Of course, no one will admit this is lying because of the sacred cow...
  7. Wrangler

    Taking Back Blessing & Benefitting From Lying

    There seems to be a dogmatic opposition within Christendom against lying. Please explain how this is shown in the following Scriptures. From today's devotional reading, Jesus tells the Apostles to take back a house they blessed if they find it not worthy. Matthew 10:13. Yet, not merely lying...
  8. Wrangler

    The LORD's Lords

    I came across this verse in today's devotional reading from Genesis 18. 18 The LORD appeared to Abraham[a] by the oaks[b] of Mamre ... He looked up and saw three men ... bowed down to the ground. 3 He said, “My lord, if I find favor with you, do not pass by your servant. 4 Let a little water...
  9. Wrangler

    Church Choose money over Truth

    This is an article, I feel needed to be written for a long time, decades. It’s clear to me the church has made itself irrelevant in the public square. It’s shifted to be overly spiritualized, ignoring the body, the soulful aspect of our being. Consequently, America suffers from bad governance...
  10. Wrangler

    Should I Leave My Church?

    Father's Day celebration. They asked men trivial questions like what color the children’s eyes are, what their pediatrician’s name is. They even asked one grandfather what is the date of his 2 grandchildren’s birthday. When he gave the month and year, the FEMALE interviewer told him that was not...
  11. Wrangler

    Putin’s Warning To The West

    A couple of weeks I was shocked to read that Brandon publicly authorized US donated weapons for Ukraine’s defense to be used to attack Russia - not Russians on Ukrainian soil but Russia’s sovereign land. Imagine our response to Iran if they said as much the Houthi’s? Provoking the world’s...
  12. Wrangler

    Not Afraid To Disobey The Kings Orders

    There is a political passivity among many Christians today that was obviously not the case among Christians along the centuries, including Charlemagne, Queen Izabella, Oliver Cromwell and the Founding Fathers. Today's thread is brought to you by the devotional reading in Because Moses'...
  13. Wrangler

    Anyone Who Says Jesus is The Christ is Banished (Chosen S4E2)

    My wife and I saw this episode in the movie theater and again last night. Powerfully delivered. The actor who plays the Pharisee who hates Jesus did an outstanding job. In his pronouncement, I reflect in this thread. The Chosen does such a good job of bringing the Scriptures to life on a human...
  14. Wrangler

    Can You Truly Love Others If You Don't Love Yourself?

    Talked with a fairly new Christian over the weekend. He lived a meth chemist and dealer for a season before coming to Christ. He struggles to forgive himself. So, it got me thinking Can You Truly Love Others If You Don't Love Yourself? Love to hear your thoughts.
  15. Wrangler

    InterFaith: Insufficient Privilege

    Was introduced to @Pancho Frijoles yesterday. He wrote several times to several poster about elaborating in the Interfaith Forum. Turns out, it seems I don't have sufficient privileges to post there. Maybe things changed with the new ownership a couple of years back. Is there a place, besides...
  16. Wrangler

    Cowardly: Churches Wanting To Be Known For What They Stand For?

    I've heard this expressed too many times. It seems many American churches do not want to offend, have succombed to politica correctness. They express this as wanting to be known for what they stand for not what they stand against. Isn't this really the same thing? Aren't churches making...
  17. Wrangler

    How Do You Show Love To Believers of Other Denominations?

    OK. This is a bit of a rant. I'm about sick of all these threads that bash on denominations whose doctrines aren't widely shared. At least 3 denominations are routinely targeted here: JW, LDS & SDA. I pray this thread may transform this community from theoreticians to putting into practice the...
  18. Wrangler

    How many consider Adam our father?

    Just read 2 Chronicles 34:3, where King Yoshiyahu sought after the God of David his father. In fact, David was an ancient ancestor by then. USE OF LANGUAGE. How far do we take this? And why not Abraham?
  19. Wrangler

    Blasphemy: The Limits of God

    This is a thread I've wanted to start for a long time. Merriam Webster defines blasphemy as the act of claiming the attributes of a deity, which necessarily means when we say we have Christ in us, we are making a blasphemous statement. And we are certainly limited. Yes, Scripture says that with...
  20. Wrangler

    Is Jesus the only child of God?

    Colossians 3:12 points out that we too are chosen by God. John 1:12 says that we too are sons and daughters of God. So, while Jesus was the only son of God, as all firstborns are, he is no longer the only son of God. There is a vid that expands on this. I might be able to dig it up if...