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You actually believe that I am the only one who sees the scripture this way? You give me way too much credit, but thanks. No, many before me have seen the scripture the same way, and many of the growing Messianic Jews who are coming to Yeshua see it the same way. Oriigen, Augustine, Luther...

No, the prescription in the Torah is that a matter cannot be established without the testimony of two or more witnesses. The kingdom of God and heaven are indeed the same, but it is to be on earth after the tribulation period and Messiah will be reigning from Jerusalem. That doesn't negate the...

No need. The HS already wrote the book. Is that the best retort you can use? Can you prove from scripture that I erred in my analysis?

What is really bad about that is it totally assails the scripture. The kingdom of Yeshua is not in Heaven, it is here on earth. The OT is replete with passages that show that and Yeshua will reign from literal Jerusalem as promised to David (2 Samuel 7). The disciples even asked Yeshua...

Actually, Jacob = Israel. It was not Abraham. Jacob's name was changed to Israel by YHVH. Genesis 32:28.

Well there is a middle ground, so to speak. Some do equate the letters to the 7 churches as both present time when the book was written and also a picture of church history. They would also say that while it does seem to correspond to church history, they were real churches getting their...

You bet! I reject the Hellenization of scripture interpretation that was developed by Origen and solidified by Augustine and supported by John Calvin. Allegorical interpretation is not God's gig. It is man made. And it led from Origen thru Augustine thru Luther thru Calvin straight to the...

Until one looks at Hosea 5:14 - Hosea 6:2 and Matthew 23:39. Yeshua made is quite clear that He would return to His place and not come back UNTIL (the operative word here) collective Jacob (Judah and Israel) acknowledge their offense of rejecting Him and petition for His return and the...

And none of that negates that there is a physical Hebrew people that must collectively acknowledge the offense of rejecting Yeshua, turn to Him, and call for His return... Before He will return. You are forcing a spiritual application onto a physical identity. Is is allegory applied in...

Judaism is a religion. Jew is a physical identity. Do you really not understand that? Abraham was before the Torah, before Israel, before the Mosaic / Sinai Covenant, etc. And circumcision was a sign of the Abrahamic Covenant. It was later also applied to proselytes by the Torah, but it...

Nah. No confusion. But thanks for caring enough to try and point it out. The believing Jews become part of the Ekklesia where, spiritually, there is neither Jew nor Gentile. But physical, literal Jacob and physical, literal gentiles are still entities. And that literal, physical Jacob...

Hold onto that thought and be sure to tell Yeshua that He didn’t know what He was talking about in Hosea and Matthew. Not sure you even studied those passages side by side. In your zeal to support your assertion, you neglected the prescription in the Torah that a matter can only be established...

Again, who will the Jacob (Israel) be who is yet to fulfill Hosea 5:15 and Matthew 23:39? Replacement Theology falls flat on its face with those two passages. Oh... Yeshua is the speaker in both of them.

Who then will be Jacob (Israel) who acknowledges the offense of rejecting Yeshua and calls for His return..... before He will return? The church? When did the redeemed of Yeshua (the “church”) reject Him so that He would return to His place? Especially when the church as an entity did not...

Yeah, those two I have some real problems with. On the replacement theology thing, I am not sure why anyone would want to take upon themselves all the baggage of Israel unless they were born Hebrew. The believer has a far better covenant and promises than Israel ever had. I am a businessman...

Well, that really isn't helping anyone here. I can say the same about your position. This is like a couple of kids at the playground... "my daddy can beat up your daddy". Instead, build your case. I offered up a little something to chew on, at least you can do the same. I stated quite...

Yeah, that would be a way to do it. But then it would make YHWH untrustworthy regarding His promises. And that would mean simply that if He can't be trusted to uphold His promises, then what is there to assume that He can be trustworthy regarding one's eternity? I don't believe YHWH is...

The best way to approach these things is not from the position of trying to disprove the opposition, but bolstering one's own position. Studying these things out to reduce any reasonable doubt for the position they hold. I find that if folks just focus on attacking the opposition, they risk...

Very well said! Great analogy.

Interesting thought, but not biblical. Before the Babylonian exile, many of the northern tribes migrated southward and joined with Judah. There are at least 3 instances of this. 2 Chronicles 11:14-17, 2 Chronicles 15:9, 2 Chronicles 34:9 When the return from the Babylonian Exile occurred...