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Use whatever fancy language you like. I'm just saying that how you understand the divinity of Jesus depends entirely on how you define divinity. So I don't think anyone can make an argument for or against Jesus being God vs man, unless they first provide a definition for "God".

You're not wrong, but doesn't it all depend on how we define "God"? Your entire premise seems to require a singular God. What if there are multiple Gods? Can one God not be the father of another God?

The tyranny of the new world order? Which new world order are you referring to? And what tyranny are you referring to?

Yes. And while we're at it, we should also bury the entire rapture doctrine. And the tribulation doctrine, the anti-Christ, the one world government, the third temple. It's all nonsense.

The drama is intense.:watching and waiting:

Great chatting with you man! See you on the flip side! :Hnds

I used to believe everything you say, and I even argued in favour of your same arguments, and yet, here I am. What does that tell you? No one moves from understanding to ignorance, only from ignorance to understanding. Maybe I'll set up a preterism thread and we can chat there. I mis-read...

It's getting chilly in here. :cold:

You can close your eyes if you want to, that's totally up to you, but the less information you're open to receiving, the less you will know.

How is it nonsense, when Jesus literally relates the destruction of the temple, with the destruction of heaven and earth? The entire chapter of Luke 21 is about Jesus describing the destruction of the temple and the signs of the end. Jesus begins by saying "As for what you see here, the time...

Luke 21:25-27 “There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. 26 People will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken. 27 At that time...

The comparison is apt. Everything Jesus predicted would happen, happened. Even the signs and wonders. Bet you didn't know that.

Sounds like you're ready to run. I've bombarded you with inconvenient truths, and now you're experiencing cognitive dissonance. That's tough, but there was a flood in 70 AD, in Jerusalem, and you know it. Just accept it! Don't fight it anymore! The truth will set you free!!!

Got it! :Oh no:

I get it. I've blown your mind. When your mind heals, give it another thought. You'll see that it's not so crazy after all. It's actually simple facts. The temple was "heaven and earth". FACT!

Interesting idea. I don't agree that it could be clouds of angels, because I know it is symbolic language, similarly used throughout scripture, but I like your outside the box thinking.

Thanks. I really don't want to go searching for your old posts, so I appreciate your giving me a summary here.

Did I say I was a pre-tribber? If so, I apologize. I meant preterist. All these "pre" words. So similar.

Death has already been swallowed up in victory. I believe I will never experience death. Don't you believe the same?