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Well, you're cutting in on an exchange between me and another poster; I wasn't talking to you at all there. Which, certainly, you can do what you want... as if you needed my approval... <chuckles> ...which you don't, of course... <smile> At any rate, I don't recall having actually "called you...

Might be interesting to hear you try to back that up with any modicum of actual substance, Dash, instead of making such a thoughtless, drive-by statement. <smile> Grace and peace to you.

Right... And there it is, making faith a work of man. All versions say the same thing... "assurance of..." "confidence in..." "substance of..." "things hoped for" and "evidence of..." "assurance of..." "conviction of..." "things not seen." Any of these, assurance, confidence, substance...

Innate to the heart-regenerate Christian. And again, that's because the heart has been changed from stone to flesh. By God. Which we will, when this faith is worked in our heart of flesh by God via His Holy Spirit... when we are assured and convicted... by God... by God's work in us. LOL...

...saving faith, yes, and that is because the heart has been changed from stone to flesh. Right, so, even if it's inadvertent, quit making faith out to be a work, because that's what you and all Arminians are guilty of. Grace and peace to you.

Ah, so Christians cause... or make... people believe in Christ? <smile> I mean, I know you're not really saying that, but faith does come by hearing, yes, just as Paul says in Romans 10:17. Right, because they are. LOL! No, but by saying what you're saying about faith and what it is and how...

Okay, well, so is your Arminianism. This is not what I have said; it is not a Calvinistic belief. At all. This is just one example of what I meant when I said your premises are erroneous; your supposed "fallacy" is itself fallacious <smile>. So you're not really "showing me" anything...

The Greek word "apostasia" means a defiance of an established system or authority. Divorce is quite different from that. This is an act of defiance, even rebellion. It's what Paul talks about in Romans 1, that unbelievers have "exchanged the truth for a lie" and "worship creation rather than...

He does not. He says, Behold, that every Christian has a measure of faith. Every Christian is give that by God, and thus every Christian has it. And not just "something"... Paul never says, Behold, exactly what faith is. But the writer of Hebrews ~ who had God's Word breathed into him just...

Every human develops some kind of faith in something (or somethings) for all kinds of reasons. But God does not give His assurance to every human. How very Arminian... <smile> I mean really... this was his first point: "Although human nature was seriously affected by the fall, man has not...

In a sense, Ronald, we agree. But there is another sense, the one in which, naturally speaking, we are all tares/goats from the beginning. We have all fallen short of the glory of God. Grace and peace to you.

I agree, but it has to be given you first. You don't assure yourself; such would be an empty assurance. The assurance has to come from outside of yourself, else you cannot use it, and thus you will not believe in that something. Yes, but if God has not given you His assurance of salvation...

Well, right. But what do you "use it" for, Behold? <smile> That really makes no sense. Because you have it, it certainly affects how you say and do things from then on, if that's what you mean. He doesn't. As I have said. Okay, well if He gives it, then He's going to see it at work in us...

Nope. 'Measure,' is not synonymous with mere 'ability' to do anything, Behold. 'Measure' in 1 Corinthians 12:9, should be understood in the sense of 'amount,' or 'strength.' And this is the case with all the gifts of the Spirit there. Salvific faith is God-given assurance. I have said this...

I'm not "rationalizing" anything, Ronald. But yes, God's eternal decree, for sure. It is what it is. My intent is to make things clearer using everyday human terms, if you will, but still, it is what it is. Grace and peace to you.

Yes he is. We disagree. Some kind of faith, yes, but not faith from God, which is given only to Christians at the point they are born again of the Spirit, each in his own measure, according to God's will. This is what Paul is saying in 1 Corinthians 12. Now, that measure can increase, again...

Right, and he's speaking to Christians, so he's talking about Christians, not literally every person living, past, present, or future. Agreed, our belief is of ourselves, but in the new birth of the Spirit, He does give us a new spirit ~ He "removes the heart of stone from our flesh and gives...

But it is ~ or would be, anyway ~ God's will that because one is guilty of sin that he or she ~ if not born again of the Spirit, thus redeemed by Christ and therefore in Christ and clothed in His righteousness and unrepentant of that sin ~ be subject to the Father's perfect justice and the just...

Agreed. No need for all the... complications... <smile> ...that premillennialism, um, "offers." <smile> And it will be very short-lived, so much so that "Satan's little season," Christ's return and final defeat of Satan, and even including the final Judgement, while sequential and in that...

Sigh... Agree. Born again of the Spirit. Sure. Well, right, but we are not in eternity (the age to come) yet. But yes. God is the giver of faith, through which we are in Christ, and therefore have salvation and eternal life. I'm not sure of the point you're trying to make here, but at...