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  1. Super Kal

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I recommend the 2016 debate between Greg Stauffer and Joe Schimmel You can repeat yourself all you want, doesn't change the fact that Noah was not lifted above the Earth... Noah was in a boat. A boat does not float above the Earth. A boat floats in the water. The water is part of the Earth...
  2. Super Kal

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Revelation 13:7 Then the beast was permitted to wage war against the saints and to conquer them, and it was given authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation. God does NOT cause tribulation. He permits it And Noah was never lifted above the earth. Noah was in a boat. He was...
  3. Super Kal

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The entirety of the early church taught that the church would suffer at the hands of the Antichrist... not a single one of them taught that Christians would secretly float away into the sky before tribulation began.
  4. Super Kal

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Revelation 3:10 does not teach a Pre tribulation rapture. The phrase keep thee from in Greek is "tereo autos ek", The Greek preposition "ek" denotes the motion of the noun from the exterior of the object, not the interior of the object... if this were to teach a pre tribulation rapture, it would...
  5. Super Kal

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Jesus never said we would escape tribulation "In this world you shall have tribulation, but be of good cheer for I have overcome the world" "Through much tribulation shall we enter the Kingdom of God"
  6. Super Kal

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    that just shows how much you actually havent studied this... In as many days as this world was made, in so many thousand years will it be concluded. . . . For the day of the Lord is as a thousand years. In six days created things were completed. It is evident, therefore, that they will come to...
  7. Super Kal

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Eusebius has never been called, and never will be called, an ECF. “The Holy Scriptures foretell that there will be unmistakable signs of the Coming of Christ. Now there were among the Hebrews three outstanding offices of dignity, which made the nation famous, firstly the kingship, secondly that...
  8. Super Kal

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    If you want the quote that shows that he was a preterist I can definitely provide that for you
  9. Super Kal

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Well, I wasn't necessarily saying that's what you believed... I was simply showing that's what Eusebius believed
  10. Super Kal

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    And I 100% applaud that. I will never ever tell another person to take the early church writings as foundational authority over the scriptures, because that's not what the Bible teaches, and I will always rely on the scriptures for my foundation of Truth, yet even the scriptures themselves never...
  11. Super Kal

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    That's why the testimony of Papias is so important. Both Eusebius and Irenaeus quote from Papias, and those are the only fragments that we have of his writings, and Irenaeus quotes from Papias, and it says: "As the elders who saw John the disciple of the Lord remembered that they had heard from...
  12. Super Kal

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    sure I do want you to know, though, so that we're all on the same page... I affirm premillennialism, I'm not saying it's wrong... I agree with the early church and their belief in premillennialism... after all, the Apostle John had two known students of his own, Polycarp of Smyrna and Ignatius...
  13. Super Kal

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The entirety of the ante-Nicene church was premillennial... even Eusebeus, who was one of the first church historians, even though he thought premillennialism to be a heresy, admitted that the entirety of the church before 325 AD, taught premillennialism
  14. Super Kal

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Based on the verse alone, it says that he saw corruption, it does not say that he put on incorruption, like 1 Corinthians 15:52-53 says: 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be...
  15. Super Kal

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    2 Corinthians 5:4 is a callback to 1 Corinthians 15:54, when Paul says that "death is swallowed up in victory" plus, we have to keep in mind, that after the death, burial, resurrection, and ascension of Jesus Christ, the Apostle John said in John 3:13 "no man has ascended up into heaven, except...
  16. Super Kal

    K Harris economic policies of price fixing is a catastrophic plan of destruction

    Maybe in the cities he did that, but I live in Minnesota, and here, in the rocks and cows area of Minnesota (that's what he calls us) we didn't have people like that
  17. Super Kal

    K Harris economic policies of price fixing is a catastrophic plan of destruction

    This is exactly why I am voting for Donald Trump this election cycle... and I hope RFK Jr. endorses him
  18. Super Kal

    Daniel's Final "one week" of Daniel 9:27 Made Simple

    So... those were taught by the Apostles and the students of the Apostles have no meaning to you, then?
  19. Super Kal

    Daniel's Final "one week" of Daniel 9:27 Made Simple

    When it concerns Daniel 927 and the different interpretation of that particular verse, you can trace back the interpretations of these verses to the first people who taught it, and every interpretation that I have read in this thread has its origins with some one other than Christ and the...
  20. Super Kal

    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    i never said i was a Greek expert, but it does not take a Greek expert to read a Bible Greek lexicon, read a Strong's exhaustive concordance, and do the research for yourself. Go to any Greek New Testament: Berean Greek New Testament 2016 SBL Greek New Testament 2010 Nestle Greek New Testament...