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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    Well, what can I say. Scripture disagrees again with your statement. Rev 20: 13 is the Great Whsite Thone judgement. All the dead,not some of the dead, stand before Him, and books were opened. And another book is opened, the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works...
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    No, Adam was not created mortal. God permitted it out of mercy to mankind and His creation. you got the idea that the sting of death is sin. That is true for every human born. But it was not true for Adam. He brougth death to the world. Sin condemns anyone who does not confess their sins...
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    Apparently, you are not well read when it comes to historical Christianity. We have been discussing only one thing and that is the Humanity of Christ or the Incarnation. Roman Catholics may have a different view because they accepted Augustines doctrine of Original Sin. they also accepted the...
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    To be regenerated to a new relationship with Christ that has eternal consequences. It is accomplished through baptism and enters one into the Kingdom of God. It is referring to the second death which is permanent relational separation from God for an eternity. This is taken from Eph 2:1-5. It...
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    So quick to name names when your view does not align with another. If you must know I am an Orthodox Christian. Definitely not a denomination.
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    Where is this stated in scripture. He died both, physical and spiritual. But spiritual in scripture is always in relation to our spiritual relationship with Christ. In scripture there are two deaths and two resurrection. They correspond to physical and spiritual. Spiritual death occured by...
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    OK, He was created. I'm glad you agree with the rest of the paragraph.
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    I have answered all of these questions several times already throughout this thread. There is no reason why I should need to go in circles. All of you clearly have views that do not align with scripture. Most if not all of you have a severe ignorance of the understanding of the Incarnation of...
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    It is what scripture has meant from the beginning. I don't need to come up with anything. It has an historical record from the beginning, it is what was once delievered to the saint. Jude 3. Correct, since creation. I agree with Paul as well. Without the resurrection the sacrifice for...
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    It has been defeated, It was permitted to remain until He returns. All the dead will be raised, not just followers. I Cor 15:5354. A new relationship, not a new physical nature. All believers still possess a mortal nature. You are correct that believes will also be glorified. There will be no...
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    Never stated or implied. We were speaking only of His human nature which Christ in His divinity assumed from the Virgin Mary.
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    But death occured from Adam. We sin because we are mortal. I Cor 15:56. He sure did, as He did with Adam, But it is Satan that had the power of death, Heb 2:14-16. God permits a lot by His Sovereignty. By permiting man to become mortal, God had plan to redeem man from that error by...
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    Christ had a human nature, the one Adam was born with. One that had the capability to die, become mortal. Christ gave up His life, did not suffer corruption. Even if you argue that He was born with a mortal nature, that does njot make Him a sinner. We are all born mortals, but not born sinners...
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    We are now only because Christ defeated death. Again, only because Christ defeated death. If Christ had not defeated death, as created creature, both body and soul would cease to exist. Where is this stated in scripture? again only because Christ defeated death. Yes, because Christ...
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    If you think that I am wrong then where is your evidence that what you believe has the mark of the Holy Spirit in preserving His gospel that He gave once to the disciple/apostles. Does that truth have an historical evidence? If it does not then it can hardly the Truth once delivered to the...
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    We are not immortal now, neither the body or the soul. When our bodies are reunited in the resurrection, then all men will become immortal and incorruptible. Correct. Which is why Christ did not make us immortal in this life. Our mortal bodies will die once to rid our bodies of sin so that in...
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    Your's may be opinion. But what I have posted is historical Truth. It is easy to follow through history. It was explained by Iraneeous, Titian, Theophilius. Athanasius, who also wrote a book on the Incarnation in the 3rd century. Then there have been several Ecumenical Councils that defended...
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    Christ will draw all men to Himself. He did that through the Incarnation, so that man could again have a relationship with God in this life, being born again regernates that relationship through baptism. It actually does, but then why not give your interpretation as to why you think it does not...
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    scripture says it does. Rom 5:12. Yes, God permitted the world as He did for Adam. Heb 2:14-16 clearly states that death is the power of Satan, not God. Those who reject Christ and those who do not remain faithful will suffer the second death which is a spiritual death, loss of a relationship...
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    Personal That I have a personal, spiritual relationship with Him. The Holy Sp;irit.