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  1. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Well, Jesus said so Himself - John 14:8 Philip said to him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us.” John 14:9 Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’...
  2. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    I am the son of my father, the natural way, not divine. Jesus is the Son of God, the supernatural way, how can He be not divine?
  3. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Amen. I say AMEN. Isn't that a bridge too far? I remember my days I had to deal with the phrase "Jesus is God" Give RJ some slack, she is most open minded person I met on the forum.
  4. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Personally after reading and participating in this massive thread I now prefer to say that Jesus is God the Son instead of Jesus is God. While both are true since God the Father and God the Son are ONE, the phrase Jesus is God might give the reader the wrong impression that Jesus is God the...
  5. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    I called it progress, not truth, progress in the sense coming closer to the truth. No man in Scripture is called divine, yes? Hence progress.
  6. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Well then, that's progress [!]
  7. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    I believe @marks already pointed you to - Filipp 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Filipp 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: Filipp 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was...
  8. ProDeo

    Jesus is Yahweh.

    John 10:30 - I and the Father are one. Also meant to be understood figuratively ? Come on... Looking forward to your next post. Be well.
  9. ProDeo

    Jesus is Yahweh.

    Your logic is not great, so more simple then - Your understanding of Scripture regarding the deity of Christ is different than mine. That's all there is and your initial suggestive question makes no sense. I give up and you may have the last word.
  10. ProDeo

    Jesus is Yahweh.

    John 8:23 - He said to them, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. Also meant to be understood figuratively ? Johh 17:5 And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed. Also meant to be...
  11. ProDeo

    Jesus is Yahweh.

    The same silly question again ? Let's reverse your silly question, maybe you will understand : You believe Jesus is not YHWH, also that Jesus is not God the Son. I ask how you feel about believing in things that contradict Scripture, i.e., why are you OK with it?
  12. ProDeo

    Jesus is Yahweh.

    Brilliant.
  13. ProDeo

    Jesus is Yahweh.

    First, you shall not put words in my mouth. Secondly, your words imply that I am a hypocrite deliberately posting things I don't believe. You should be more careful before you hit the submit button.
  14. ProDeo

    Jesus is Yahweh.

    I prefer Exegesis and even that without spiritual understanding can lead to false conclusions.
  15. ProDeo

    Jesus is Yahweh.

    I don't like to be like you, who in order to keep what you believe, has to argue against the mountain of evidence that has been provided to you over several threads and hundreds of posts. I understand your position but in the end you are not convincing. I will increase the mountain of evidence...
  16. ProDeo

    "The heavens and the earth" were "created"--"WITHOUT FORM."

    So no spiritual meaning of - The earth was without form and void, and darkness... according to you? While when God creates the new heavens, new earth and new Jerusalem it's all about light and splendor.
  17. ProDeo

    Jesus is Yahweh.

    Too bad, I can not make it easier for you. One more thing, to be complete, your signature states - The most important commandment is this: “Hear, O Israel, the Eternal One is our God, and the Eternal One is the only God., he is one, and that there is no other besides him Does not conflict...
  18. ProDeo

    Knowing the Day and the Hour of the Lord's Coming

    Some Scripture is missing in this discussion - Matt 24:21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be. Jesus is speaking about Israel and what is going to happen exactly 40 years after His resurrection, the end...
  19. ProDeo

    "The heavens and the earth" were "created"--"WITHOUT FORM."

    Hence my question about the darkness the earth was in, as we read - 1John 1:5 This is the message we have heard from him and proclaim to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. Is it possible the darkness stands symbol for something?? Who is totally darkness?, the devil...