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  1. ProDeo

    "The heavens and the earth" were "created"--"WITHOUT FORM."

    @ElieG12 is not speculating at all, it is amazing Gen 1:1-2 (as old as it was written down) is in full sync with modern cosmology. The question remains why in this way, the darkness..... 1John 1:5 This is the message we have heard from him and proclaim to you, that God is light, and in him is...
  2. ProDeo

    Jesus is Yahweh.

    How? That I only made a typo? Sure. Agreed. Question remains what is the identity of Jesus when He descended FROM heaven. . We know Jesus preexisted before the world existed (John 17:5 | Col 1:16) . The Father and Jesus glorified each other before the world existed (John 17:5) So, who is...
  3. ProDeo

    JESUS: THE ETERNAL ALPHA AND OMEGA

    https://7b4393b6-d792-40ae-b704-8e57a3b16e62.usrfiles.com/ugd/7b4393_c637c63712a04ce1a9cfee79416de946.pdf This is an old study how much Revelation is quoting from the OT, it's massive. Unfortunately most of the orange links don't work any longer.
  4. ProDeo

    Jesus is Yahweh.

    Yes, descended indeed, my bad.
  5. ProDeo

    Jesus is Yahweh.

    [Q] - when I say, Jesus is God the Son, ascended from heaven, incarnated by the Holy Spirit into the human flesh, God with us - do you call that blasphemy?
  6. ProDeo

    Jesus is Yahweh.

    I have this habit to respond to unsound personal stuff whether it's about myself or others. Last time I checked this is a Christian forum.
  7. ProDeo

    Jesus is Yahweh.

    . True for Adam and the rest of the human race. . True for angels and especially the devil. . Not true for God the Son. About unfortunate, sin (evil) is simply an unfortunate side effect of God's choice (Him good) to give His creatures free will. And of course God knew on beforehand that...
  8. ProDeo

    Jesus is Yahweh.

    One day you have to explain that to Jesus.
  9. ProDeo

    Jesus is Yahweh.

    Dishonesty has nothing to do with what I firmly believe. I suppose it is the same with you. So why call me dishonest? Pointless.
  10. ProDeo

    Jesus is Yahweh.

    And I gave you an answer - Key verse IMO is John 8:58 - Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.” Christ (Yahweh descended from heaven) referring that it was Him who revealed Himself in the burning bush to Moses.
  11. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Depends how you understand second death, a term introduced in Revelation, as - 1. Eternal separation from God - . Sinners thrown into the outer darkness. . In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. . It seems to me those are alive, but separated from God. Rev 22:14 - Blessed...
  12. ProDeo

    Jesus is Yahweh.

    My 2 cents, open for discussion, but first I must explain to you what I believe so there can be no misunderstandings. . God the Father (Elohim) in Gen-1, eternal and uncreated, . God the Son (Yahweh) in Gen-2, eternal and uncreated, a different personality than the Father. . God the Father is...
  13. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    God bless you brother.
  14. ProDeo

    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    Ps 2:7 - I will tell of the decree: The LORD said to me, “You are my Son; today I have begotten you. I understand that verse as a prophecy fulfilled in Bethlehem. I could be wrong.
  15. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Well, if you want to be a Christian forum...
  16. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    No, I am not. John 13:34 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another. John 13:35 By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.” Rom 12:10 Love one another with brotherly...
  17. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    This is what you wrote - judgement and personal attacks, the latter against the forum rules. It's its kryptonite, indeed, and those who adhere to its poison, who laid it as they please over scripture to please and massage their egos and their idols. That's why folks like J., only understands...
  18. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    I don't demand an apology, I was speaking of myself when I have behaved bad in retrospect.
  19. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Indeed, we all have our moments as you say, but when back to your senses, simply make an apology.
  20. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Although many of their eschatological teachings have changed over the years,[47] Jehovah's Witnesses have consistently claimed to be the only true religion.[48] Based on their interpretation of Revelation 18:2-24, Jehovah's Witnesses believe all other religions are part of "Babylon the Great", a...