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  1. ProDeo

    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    Hey Face, stay out of this topic, respect the OP, there are several other threads where you can express your JW theology.
  2. ProDeo

    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    I think the early church believed - God, the Father God, the Son God, the Holy Spirit. Three distinct uncreated eternal Personalities. And They are ONE. God the Son descended from heaven (John 3:13) and incarnated as God the Son in the human flesh (John 1:14). I can share your worries after...
  3. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Just another cult that claims they have the full truth.
  4. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Yes, I do. This is what you wrote - It's its kryptonite, indeed, and those who adhere to its poison, who laid it as they please over scripture to please and massage their egos and their idols. That's why folks like J., only understands scripture for the natural, carnal so-called scholarly...
  5. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    I don't think the oneness issue is a salvation issue, I prefer to leave that to the external arbiter. I am also not Paul or John. In those times no one had a printed Bible and Gnostic teachings were rampant because of that, Paul and John had to be harsh on that and keep the Gospel pure.
  6. ProDeo

    Why Did Jesus Have to Die?

    The price of free will, it goes in any direction.
  7. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Matt 7:1 “Judge not, that you be not judged. Matt 7:2 For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you.
  8. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Have you ever wondered why in Gen 1 it's Elohim and in Gen-2 it's Yahweh who is speaking? And secondly Be fruitful and become many, fill the earth and subdue it while in Gen 2 the Earth is limited to what happened in the Garden, meaning it's not about the full Earth. Correct. Yep, driven...
  9. ProDeo

    Trump to announce $500 billion investments in an AI supercomputer intelligence to be called Stargate.

    Rev 13:17 - so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name. Rev 13:18 - This calls for wisdom: let the one who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is 666. It's...
  10. ProDeo

    Trump to announce $500 billion investments in an AI supercomputer intelligence to be called Stargate.

    Well, I did not invent it, but I suppose you can say the number 6 is the number of men.
  11. ProDeo

    Trump to announce $500 billion investments in an AI supercomputer intelligence to be called Stargate.

    When A=1 and Z=26 we get C = 3 x 6 = 18 O = 15 x 6 = 90 M = 13 x 6 = 78 P = 16 x 6 = 96 U = 21 x 6 = 126 T = 20 x 6 = 120 E = 5 x 6 = 30 R = 18 x 6 = 108 TOTAL = 666
  12. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    And so your world is okay again, so be it.
  13. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    You are in direct conflict with Scripture. Deut 12:31 You shall not worship the LORD your God in that way, for every abominable thing that the LORD hates they have done for their gods, for they even burn their sons and their daughters in the fire to their gods. Deut - 18:10 There shall not be...
  14. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    LOL what you want. "Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please." -- Mark Twain
  15. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    No change of subject, I will repeat and this time don't avoid and respond on the offered Scripture Deut 12:31 You shall not worship the LORD your God in that way, for every abominable thing that the LORD hates they have done for their gods, for they even burn their sons and their daughters in...
  16. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    You missed the fact that God hates human sacrifice?
  17. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    That's no good logic, Jesus was many things, He indeed came to serve but He also said - I and the Father are one. Both are true. And so IMO we should every word He said about Himself taken into consideration, likewise all the things what the OT and NT said about Him. Only then we can make up our...
  18. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Absolutely, we have. Yep, which translation is correct, that's the question. Which one to trust. Let's make our discussion easier and limit ourselves to the question, Jesus was a divine Being, preexisted with the Father before creation, participated with the Father in creation, descended...
  19. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Paul - Gal 2:20 - I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. Is that a reality for Unitarians?
  20. ProDeo

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    John 3:10 - Jesus answered and said to him, 'Thou art the teacher of Israel--and these things thou dost not know!