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This is the most bizarre understanding of scripture I have ever heard. I don't know where you're getting this stuff from.

Nonsense. Jesus was talking to (and about) the generation that lived when he was on earth, not some generation 2000 years into the future. He wasn't talking to us. He was talking to his disciples. That message was for them, not for us.

The American empire is definitely exhibiting a lot of the same traits that befell the Romans. Arrogance, complacency and debauchery, but the end of the American empire, is not the end of the world. It's just the end of the American empire.

Jesus said we would never die. Is that Greek mythology also? John 11:25 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die; 26 and whoever lives by believing in me will never die. Do you believe this?” Perhaps you're referring to...

Interesting you say this. "Satan is already defeated". Does that mean you believe death has been defeated?

Quoted for emphasis.

It's the end of something, though isn't it? Not the end of humanity, but it brings something to an end, or better said, it is the culmination or promise of something fulfilled. Ezekiel 5 Because of all your detestable idols, I will do to you what I have never done before and will never do...

Do you see this battle as still future?

That's precisely the wrong attitude to have in a place like this. With an open mind you could really learn something from Amils. None of their doctrine is "made up". They simply understand things differently than you do. You might want to ask them why, and their answers might surprise you.

I've been on other forums that were nanny states, as you say. It stifles debate, and discourages people from openly throwing their ideas out or even participating at all. I like this place. Lord knows I have some unpopular ideas, so I appreciate having the freedom to share them.

My understanding of this passage is entirely different than yours, so you might not receive it well, but I'm going to tell you anyway. The way I see it, death has already been destroyed. Death was destroyed approximately 2000 years ago. More specifically, I believe it happened when the old...

That's very interesting, but I'm confused about how this interpretation fits within the context of the parable. Jesus told the parable of the king who had invited all (the gentiles) after his invited guests (the Jews) refused to come to the wedding feast, but one who came was not wearing...

If you're interested in this topic, I can point you to some easy to read online books that have opened my eyes and are in my opinion irrefutable (I used to be a futurist). Just send me a DM, but I'll just leave you with this simple thought: Even ignoring the myriad of other evidences for this...

I'm not sure exactly what point you're trying to get at here, but this is a description of Christianity, which is the new Jerusalem. Just as the old Jerusalem were members of God's kingdom, by lineage, the new Jerusalem is God's kingdom with members based on faith (aka the Israel of God)...

We have to accept ALL scriptures, not just the ones that we prefer. The fruit of the spirit is love, yes, but God also is capable of hate. Anyway, if you don't want to accept it, that's fine, but I'm not going to ignore those verses, and you haven't yet convinced me that they don't mean what...

o.k. but none of this refutes my point, that the wages of sin is physical death which makes eternal suffering in hell impossible.

Remember, my position is that Hades is not a physical place, but a state of being, in the same way that "sleep" is a state of being, not a destination.

We are all disobedient, are we not? Isn't that the reason we would all be sentenced to death, were it not for Jesus' sacrifice?

Seems like you're making the point that the destruction of these places was not to last forever, and with that I agree. I don't see however how this negates the point I was making, which is that God hated Sodom and Gomorrah and Jerusalem, and that God is capable of hate in general.

It's figurative in the sense that he's clearly not referring to physical death. He can't be talking to people who are physically dead. Surely you agree with me on that.