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  1. Sabertooth

    Was Paul Right About Women In Church?

    You can Google it, but I don't recall any such verse. I would say no, that no one has read such a verse. I can think of two verses that sound similar but are unrelated to the spiritual gifts. (BTW, why are you asking this in a Patriarchy thread...? )
  2. Whew!

    Whew!

  3. Sabertooth

    Was Paul Right About Women In Church?

    That is only half of the basic question. The other half is "How does He intend for us to get there...?" Paul wrote, "Wives, do this..." and "Husbands, do this..." Not being a wife, I hear, "Husbands, do this..." You seem to be hearing, "Husbands, do [this] and make sure your wife does...
  4. Sabertooth

    Was Paul Right About Women In Church?

    If you are doing it right, you are doing so out of love & trust for Him (that you have grown into). Even without the threat of Hell, I know that God's ways are superior to mine. My only fear, right now, is if I choose my wisdom over His, it will likely cost me money or, at least, peace &...
  5. Sabertooth

    Was Paul Right About Women In Church?

    Are you making my point for me, that the speaker being a woman does not disqualify her from speaking...?
  6. Sabertooth

    Was Paul Right About Women In Church?

    Therein lies the problem. You deny your wife's agency when it is not your place to do so. Women will be blessed if/when they do things God's way --just like we men will be blessed, if/when we do things God's way-- but that blessing can only occur when we surrender to His will, not by doing so...
  7. Sabertooth

    Was Paul Right About Women In Church?

    That issue just depends on who is better at handling money. It could be either one. Or both. Worst case, neither.
  8. Sabertooth

    Was Paul Right About Women In Church?

    Womanly verses "Women/wives, do this..." are written to women (who, BTW, are not children). They do not say, "Men, get your women to do this..." Men are not graced to process those things on behalf of their women. We cannot replace the Holy Spirit for our wives (and, trust me, we really do not...
  9. Sabertooth

    Was Paul Right About Women In Church?

    Why do we assume that, while they were prophesying? I would agree that the gift of prophecy does not confer full-time authority, but the gift by definition, imposes momentary authority.
  10. Sabertooth

    Was Paul Right About Women In Church?

    Prophecy = authority, at least at the moment.
  11. Sabertooth

    Was Paul Right About Women In Church?

    If you would neglect "...Your sons and daughters will prophesy,..." [Acts of the Apostles 2:17] that Paul's friend, Priscilla, taught Apollos [Acts of the Apostles 18:26], and certainly more...
  12. Sabertooth

    Was Paul Right About Women In Church?

    (Apparently, Mike didn't know what circumcision was...)
  13. Sabertooth

    Was Paul Right About Women In Church?

    True, but neither one can replace the Holy Spirit for the other, either, for receiving Scripture, generally, nor for receiving gender-specific Scripture, particularly.
  14. Sabertooth

    Was Paul Right About Women In Church?

    If a person is viewing gender-specific Scripture for themselves, it is complementarianism. If they are viewing it with the goal of straightening out their spouse, it is Patriarchy/Matriarchy (even if they call it complementarianism).
  15. Sabertooth

    Was Paul Right About Women In Church?

    (It gives "unitarian" a whole new meaning... )
  16. Sabertooth

    Was Paul Right About Women In Church?

    (Because it shows most of his [privates]...)
  17. Sabertooth

    Was Paul Right About Women In Church?

    As a Christian, I am not interested in fixing (secular) feminism. (All worldly coalitions have the same types of errors.) I want to be faithful to the Holy Spirit and, as He leads me, my Bible. That is completely independent of any secular feminist agenda. Even if my wife did not feel the same...
  18. Sabertooth

    Was Paul Right About Women In Church?

    The problem with terms like "complementarianism" is that it has, at least, two common meanings, Biblical (or Pauline) complementarianism is when we seek to be faithful to gender-specific Scripture that applies to ourselves. Complementarianism is also used as a euphemism for Patriarchy [&...
  19. Sabertooth

    Favorite Passages From The Gospels - Red Letters Especially

    If The Son Sets You Free, Faithful Heart (1990) John 8:36
  20. Sabertooth

    Christian Denominations

    Which "bolt of lightning" are you referring to?