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    LIMITED ATONEMENT: US vs THEM (the L of TULIP)

    Man determines by his choice whether he will suffer the second death. Christ does not determine the eternal abode of anyone.
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    LIMITED ATONEMENT: US vs THEM (the L of TULIP)

    Actually, He died for every human being and His resurrection gave life to all men. He also saved every single human being from the power of sin. How universal is that. He saved every human being from death and the power of sin. You have a twisted concept of who Christ actually is and what He...
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    LIMITED ATONEMENT: US vs THEM (the L of TULIP)

    Propitiation means a covering of sin. Atonement is what Christ did on the Cross with that sacrifice which was to reconcile the world back to God. Col 1:20. II Cor 5:19, I John 2:2. There was no removal of sin on/from the Cross or even by His resurrection. The sacrifice was necessary for...
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    LIMITED ATONEMENT: US vs THEM (the L of TULIP)

    t They were not inspired by the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit gave us a complete Gospel, Jude 3 once in the beginning. The Holy Spirit does not give additional gospel to individual men over time. II Pet 1:20. That Gospel was preserved by the Holy Spirit within the Body of Christ, the Church...
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    LIMITED ATONEMENT: US vs THEM (the L of TULIP)

    Yes, He certainly has. So, why do you not acknowledge this and throw out the false teaching of Limited Atonement?
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    LIMITED ATONEMENT: US vs THEM (the L of TULIP)

    I have never made that claim. The Holy Spirit promised to preserve the Gospel He gave ONCE, completely. That has been born out in history within the Church Christ founded at Pentecost.
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    LIMITED ATONEMENT: US vs THEM (the L of TULIP)

    Only asserted, not proven as being scriptural. You might have a good grasp of Calvinism though.
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    LIMITED ATONEMENT: US vs THEM (the L of TULIP)

    They mean or do the same thing. Propitiation is "covering for sin" the sacrifice is what propitiates sin or reconciles mankind/world to God. This is what Christ did for the world/mankind. It is called believe/belief in Christ and what He did for us, which scripture calls, justification by...
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    LIMITED ATONEMENT: US vs THEM (the L of TULIP)

    You may believe so, but that is your choice. Scripture has never supported any of Calvin's 5 points. My prayer is that the Holy Spirit opens up your mind so that you may understand your error. The Holy Spirit was not wrong for 1500 years.
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    LIMITED ATONEMENT: US vs THEM (the L of TULIP)

    I could ask to produce the evidence but I know you cannot. Both scripture and 2000 years shows of understanding shows otherwise. History also shows that it is a false teaching of Calvinism.
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    LIMITED ATONEMENT: US vs THEM (the L of TULIP)

    Your statements shows that you do not understand the atonement. The atonement can be summed up with two verses in the Bible. I John 2:2, Heb 2:9. Christ accomplished two things. He defeated death and provided a sacrifice for sin. You can also say He defeated death and the power sin for all men...
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    LIMITED ATONEMENT: US vs THEM (the L of TULIP)

    Limited Atonement has not existed as part of the Gospel of Grace. It is antithetical to who Christ is and what He accomplished as our Incarnated Savior. It is a false teaching of Calvinism and was declared heretical by Synod of Jerusalem in 1672.
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    LIMITED ATONEMENT: US vs THEM (the L of TULIP)

    You are applying your meaning to individuals, namely how we are being saved through faith. Christ did not save individuals, personally by His death and resurrection. He saved mankind, actually the whole world from the power of sin and death. So your answer is absolutely everyone, He missed...
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    LIMITED ATONEMENT: US vs THEM (the L of TULIP)

    I have two texts that refutes your whole thesis. I John 2:2 and Heb 2:9. Then, my question to you is this. Do you believe in the Incarnation of Christ?
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    Is believing/faith a work ?

    Coming from a man who cannot refute the Truth. You have built a grand theology of one which has no bearing on scripture in the least. God have mercy
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    Is believing/faith a work ?

    Christ did not take on himself a fallen nature. He took upon Him self our human nature. Adam had a human nature that was not fallen. Christ, born of the Virgin had a human nature just like Adam. Or are you saying women don't have a human nature? Christ was not born fallen, or mortal. I'm not...
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    Is believing/faith a work ?

    The idea that man was or was not born a sinner was challenged in the 4th and 5th century between Pelagius and Augustine. In the end both were incorrect and unscriptural. Pelagius believed all men were born in the same state as Adam was created. They each sinned and become mortal. Poor man could...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    You use Rom 5:9-10 which is an introduction, though speaking to believers in Rome, he goes on from vs 12-21 explaining how the Incarnate Christ overcame the universal fall of man with the universal salvation from that fall. Another example of not fully understanding Christ's in carnation. Did...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Neither your personal opinion/interpretation or Calvin's will dissuade me from believing what all Christians believed before John Calvin introduced his erroneous theology in the 16th century. You are welcome to hold to your view, but it is not scriptural as it has always been understood. You...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    What you fail to understand that believers are human beings. All human beings have the same human nature. Here he is speaking only and specifically to believers who obviously are part of the human race. What you fail to understand that all human beings were redeemed from death and sin for the...