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  1. Freedm

    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    The church was indeed resurrected at that time, and I'll tell you why I believe that. First of all, I understand that there is no historical record of a one-time resurrection event that saw all the people step out of their graves, beyond the few around Jerusalem who were resurrected at Jesus'...
  2. Freedm

    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    Thanks for using scriptural references. This gives us a starting point. Let's begin with Matthew 24:14. Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come. Two important points I want to make here which...
  3. Freedm

    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    I'm not changing scripture. Please don't accuse me like that. We all accept what is written (well, most of us) but we understand it differently. I can tell you why I think the clouds are symbolic, but you never asked. I think people like to say that a thousand years is a day, because it's a...
  4. Freedm

    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    I didn't say those currently alive are symbolic. I didn't say paradise is symbolic. I said the clouds are symbolic. Now that we're clear on that, do you want to ask a different question?
  5. Freedm

    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    Sounds like you've got it all figured out, but do you remember in high school when the teacher would require you to explain your answer? Can we do that here also please? Can you explain to me, on what basis you claim that the day of the Lord is a thousand years in God's perspective. Where is...
  6. Freedm

    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    Well, you're giving me your opinion, which I appreciate, but do you have any reason you can share for having that opinion?
  7. Freedm

    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    You're going to have to be more specific with your reference to "alive". I was referring to being "caught up in the clouds".
  8. Freedm

    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    Everything he's accused of doing was during his time in office.
  9. Freedm

    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    A Pennsylvania judge has already agreed that he has immunity from prosecution. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trump-covered-presidential-immunity-election-claims
  10. Freedm

    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    As long as we have honest judges, this will all get thrown out because, not only has he not committed any crimes, but even if he had, a President has immunity from prosecution for anything he does during office. Even if he commits a crime while in office. That's what the impeachment process is...
  11. Freedm

    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    Anyways, the point is, when Paul said we would meet them in the clouds, he was using symbolic language.
  12. Freedm

    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    Except where they use symbolic language.
  13. Freedm

    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    S Sure, but the gospels also use a lot of symbolic language. It's good practice to read things as both literal and symbolic before you can determine which makes more sense. Often the symbolic makes more sense.
  14. Freedm

    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    But the day of the Lord is simply the day that he rejoins with humanity, restoring all things as the way they were intended. There's no requirement that the day of the Lord span any length of time, because it signifies merely the beginning of a new age. So I'm still not clear why you insist...
  15. Freedm

    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    Yes, I'm claiming we are not caught up. I believe the passage is saying that we join the others, not in literal clouds, but in life and in the glory of God. They were raised to life, and then we were raised to life also. That's how we joined them. Clouds are symbolic for God's glory, so we...
  16. Freedm

    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    2 Peter 3 is not saying that the day of the lord is a thousand years. Peter is simply telling the people to be patient, because the Lord doesn't see time the same way we do. He never said the day of the Lord is a thousand years. If that's what you get out of that passage, then you also have...
  17. Freedm

    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    Are you suggesting that paradise is at ground level, where we walk and breathe, but in a different dimension?
  18. Freedm

    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    My interpretation does not read that way. My interpretation is that Paul was speaking of the events of 70 AD, which is obviously many years after the baptism of Jesus. Not sure why you think my timeline doesn't work. Feel free to explain.
  19. Freedm

    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    Isn't it possible that the day of the Lord is literally one day? Why do you insist it spans a thousand years?
  20. Freedm

    A God of Hate

    I read your article. It describes peaceful Jewish villages that are no different than the peaceful Canaanite villages, with the exception that no pig bones were found. That this qualifies as "archeological evidence" is frankly absurd. The only basis they have for claiming that these...