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The scripture says, only begotten son. What else is Jesus if not God? Begotten does not mean created from nothing. It means one is brought forth, and is of the same substance and nature of that from which he is begotten. In our case, we are human because our fathers are human. Despite...

While I agree wholeheartedly with everything else in your post, the above excerpt is where i begin to draw back, for 2 main reasons. First, co-equal denies the sense of submission and obedience of the Son throughout scripture, even in the OT...eg. Lo, I come to do Thy will o God. Second, and...

You do??? Seriously? It is my principle complaint against the councils and those who established the various creeds, that they attempted to formulate the"oneness" of the Father and Son, by defining it, then enforcing it on the church. But you and your church can? We cannot understand how the...

“For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich. ” 2 Corinthians 8:9 KJV Unfeigned Bible “Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto...

“1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. 2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I...

Huh? No-one i have read of, heard, or spoken to has ever suggested that Jesus was born as a human in heaven prior to Bethlehem? Where do you get this stuff from? Your straw men are not very well built, they are like chaff in the wind. The Father sent His Son into the world to become a human...

While it may be true that Arius believed and taught doctrines that weren't orthodox, I believe we need to be circumspect in accusing others of being Arian such as the Catholic church did a long time ago. Anyone who the Catholic hierarchy disagreed with, they accused them of being Arian. Yet...

Surely you aren't suggesting that there are not any scriptures that state clearly that God sent His Son into the world?

You flatter me. No, scripture and Brakelite.

Then Jesus wasn't the "only begotten son" if begotten means created right?

As I said,

I don't have to much issue with anything you've said above, it's surprisingly orthodox. Just don't know why it's so important to you to present Christ as only human, as opposed to a divine being clothed in a human body, with 4000 years of inherited human weaknesses and weakened nature...

Yes, and it makes far more sense than to believe we are given a planet that's desolate and in ruin, and our first job is to clean it up.

No, wrong. It had nothing to do with the trinity. It's about the relationship between Father and Son. Begotten, when used in scripture, was used exclusively to describe generational birth. John was the only one to use the word in relation to Jesus. John knew what the word meant, and as...

I can live with that, the question i differ on is when was Jesus begotten? I have a mind to accept the scriptures as they read... For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” John 3:16 “He that...

“11 And he said, A certain man had two sons: 12 And the younger of them said to his father, Father, give me the portion of goods that falleth to me. And he divided unto them his living. 13 And not many days after the younger son gathered all together, and took his journey into a far country, and...

@KUWN Your Husband has a name and title. “7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. 8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the...

If you are not of Israel, then you are not a Christian.

And makes Calvary a mere insufficient human sacrifice.

Yeah, precisely. They demand logic before they are to believe, then discard logic in their counter arguments.