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  1. keithr

    Why are Bible scholars leaving Christianity?

    No, not "while he was a man". Verse 6 is not talking about Jesus while he was a man, it's talking about Jesus before God changed Jesus' nature to be human (referred to in verse 7). As Jesus said twice in John 5, "the Son can do nothing of himself, but what he sees the Father doing".
  2. keithr

    Why are Bible scholars leaving Christianity?

    Why are you asking me? It was you who said that you thought the Trinity doctrine seemed "like an acceptable doctrine to believe or not believe". If you regard a doctrine as acceptable then you will probably believe it. If you think a doctine is unaccepatble then you surely will not believe...
  3. keithr

    Why are Bible scholars leaving Christianity?

    The passage is talking about how while Jesus was in the form of God, he did not consider grasping equality with God. God later changed Jesus' nature to be human, so that he was then no longer "existing in the form of God" (verse 6) but instead he existed "in human form" (verse 8) and "being...
  4. keithr

    Why are Bible scholars leaving Christianity?

    It's more interesting to realise that if Jesus did consider equality with God, then that means that Jesus was not God. Likewise, being equal with somebody else does not mean that you are that somebody else, just that you are very similar. A more precise translation, for example, is the ESV...
  5. keithr

    Why are Bible scholars leaving Christianity?

    The lie I was referring to was that the insertion of "who is himself God" is an incorrect translation, an addition/insertion to the original text, giving a meaning that is not there in the original text. As I said, I suspect it was translated with a Trinity bias. How can you not believe a...
  6. keithr

    Why are Bible scholars leaving Christianity?

    You didn't specify which translation of the Bible you were quoting from, but that is a poor translation, translated with a Trinity bias - it's deceiving people into beleiving a lie. The verse should be translated something like: John 1:18 (WEB): (18) No one has seen God at any time. The one...
  7. keithr

    Why are Bible scholars leaving Christianity?

    I may have done, but nobody has yet been healed due to my prayers (that I know of!). I was healed of a back problem at an evengelist's meeting. He prayed to God for healing in Jesus' name for all those who wanted a healing touch from God. I was healed, but the evangelist didn't know about it...
  8. keithr

    Why are Bible scholars leaving Christianity?

    It's best to not side-track this tread into discussing the Trinity - lots of Trinity believers get upset by it and react in a non-Christian way, to such an extent that the administrators of the forum have banned its discussion. (I disagree with that; they should just discipline those who don't...
  9. keithr

    Why are Bible scholars leaving Christianity?

    Yet another anti-trinitarian verse (there are lots of them!). Jesus claims to be the Son of Man, the Messiah, and that he has been taught by God. Three equal parts/persons who are all God implies that none of them need teaching anything!
  10. keithr

    Why are Bible scholars leaving Christianity?

    I couldn't help noticing the anti-trinitarian part - that Jesus has a God and Father, just like us. Romans 15:5-6 (WEB): (5) Now the God of perseverance and of encouragement grant you to be of the same mind with one another according to Christ Jesus, (6) that with one accord you may with one...
  11. keithr

    Where in the Bible are we told to pray to the Holy Spirit?

    If you believe in the Trinity doctrine then you'll have confusion such as that. Could it be that you've just realised that the Trinity doctrine is not Scriptural? Well what a surprise! It's a very important topic that we're not allowed to discuss on this forum! It does make a difference who...
  12. keithr

    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    Those passages are not describing the rapture, they're describing Jesus' second coming/advent, which is after the Great Tribulation. They say that the elect are gathered, but not that they are changed to be spriit beings and are caught up to be with Jesus. They mention that "the sun will be...
  13. keithr

    Why are Bible scholars leaving Christianity?

    I only watched the first two videos (and only half of the second video), but from that I suspect that the main reason they stopped believing was because they had no personal experience of proof. When I started to get more serious about Christianity, I used to say that I had 99.9% belief in God...
  14. keithr

    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    Jesus is answering three questions in that chapter, but none of those questions is "When will you return to receive us to yourself?" (from John 14:3, "... I will come again, and will receive you to myself; that where I am, you may be there also"). As I just quoted from John 14:3, he did say...
  15. keithr

    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    Once again you have made wrong assumptions! I have not ignored my own advice, but I have read the Bible carefully, particularly the book of Revelation, along with guidance such as can be found in this video - The Book of Revelation - Session 10 of 24 - A Remastered Commentary by Chuck Missler...
  16. keithr

    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    Yes, don't blindly believe what people tell you, but read the Bible for yourself and figure out what it really says. That's how the Protestant movement came about, when the original manuscripts were read and it was discovered that what the Roman Catholic church was teaching was incorrect. The...
  17. keithr

    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    Indeed, the coming/presence of Jesus is a one time event, as is his return to collect his bride (the Church) and take them to their new heavenly home in our Father's house. They are seperate events, at different times and for different purposes. His coming to collect his bride (the Church) is...
  18. keithr

    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    You haven't explained how any of those verses could support the idea that the rapture/resurrection of the Church will occur after the Great Tribulation. Do you really thing God is the kind of person that chooses and calls people, whom he forgives and justifies, to be a bride for His beloved...
  19. keithr

    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    The passage is about submission to authority and enduring unjust suffering. It is about how we should follow Jesus' example in our lives - our lives here on the earth now. It has nothing to do with the timing of the rapture/resurrection of Christians in relation to the Great Tribulation. 1...
  20. keithr

    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    I don't see any support for post-tribulation rapture in 1 Peter 2:20-25 either. But so what?! It seems completely unrelated to the timing of the rapture.