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Matthew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall...

Exactly! It's obvious to a lot of us that the vile person in verse 21 is the very same person that comes to his end in verse 45. And it's also obvious to a lot of us that the vile person in verse 21 is meaning the little horn in Daniel 8. Except @Douggg insists the little horn is the future...

The locusts come out to torment those that don't have the seal of God. In what way would false prophets and false christs be tormenting those those that don't have the seal of God? The text says they are tormented for 5 months wishing to die but death flees from them. Your interpretation...

What do you mean Revelation 20 doen't say the earth? Have you ever heard of logically deducing something based on clues? For example, the following below is how Revelation 20 begins. But before we get to that, how can the bottomless pit meant in Revelation 9 not be the same bottomless pit...

@TribulationSigns provided a possible solution that I tend to think could be valid, except most Amils are not on board with his solution. Especially if they are of the 'OSAS only' camp. But even those of the 'NOSAS' don't appear to be on board with his solution. Yet, his solution makes perfect...

Your timeline here involves 7 years and that great tribulation appears to be involving the biggest majority of the 7 years. Yet, great tribulation is only 3.5 years. So why do you have it involving the majority of the 7 years? You would think you would at least have it in between seal 3 and 4...

I think you are conflating things here per the title of the thread. I think you may have meant to say Revelation 6 not the 6th seal. Great tribulation is during the 5th seal not the 6th seal. Mathew 24:29, for one, makes that crystal clear since that verse is involving the 6th seal and that...

Well that is what I thought of him while he was still alive. Why would I think differently of him just because he is no longer among the living? I have been knowing about Arnold Murray and his many false teachings probably longer than you have. Since maybe the mid 90s in my case. And I know all...

While that is true about Adam it is not equally true about Eve. I see it being irrelevant per Revelation 20:7-9 the fact those verses tell us everyone meant in verse 8, satan deceives them all, and not just some of them. Therefore, it would be similar to what satan did to Eve in the beginning...

You need to interpret Scripture with Scripture rather than interpret Scripture according to the late crackpot Arnold Murray. 2 Peter 3:6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: 2 Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any...

The problem with this interpretation is this. The daughters of men do not just mean women, it means both men and women. It simply means those from Seth's line, both men and women, started intermingly with those of Cain's line which also consists of both men and women. Your interpretation implies...

The bottomless pit is obviously connected to the earth. After all, look at Revelation 9, for instance. The one in verse 1 is not falling from heaven to the moon or something, then opening the pit on the moon. The earth is what is in view. The locusts, whatever they are, they come out of the...

In post # 58 I pointed out that if there is a battle after that of 3) which then leads to satan no longer deceiving the nations, that should mean there is also a battle at the end of 1) leading to satan no longer deceiving the nations. But since that post was already getting rather lengthy as...

Though that appears possible to you that those can be parallel accounts let's not forget this one thing. satan does the exact same thing twice but at different times, he deceives the nations twice. And the following proves it. 1) before the thousand years satan is deceiving the nations. And 2)...

When I get time I will probably read that link you provided. In the meantime, I already agree it's a parable, not a literal event involving some rich man that is currently burning in hell bodily as we speak. Yet at the same time, it is true that one will be in hell bodily, but not yet, not until...

I realize that and the reason being is that you are humble. And I can appreciate that about you. Nothing wrong with being humble.

Not really, since there is Zechariah 14 to factor in. And that chapter shows that some are spared the plagues involving verse 12 and those coming against Jerusalem. Not one person is ever going to convince me that the 2nd coming of Christ and what happens after He returns is not in view in that...

In that case, I fully agree, it matters. Good point. I just didn't have that in mind at the time because both 'are' and 'were' would be proving satan is not cast into the LOF when the beast and fp are. That was the only point I was focusing on at the time. If I'm going to be intellectually...

Finally something that makes sense to me coming from the Amil camp. That is the best interpretation I have heard to date coming out of the Amil camp. Too bad most other Amils are apparently opposed to your interpretation rather than being onboard with it. Amil might make more sense to some of...

It's simply a prophecy that doesn't get fulfilled until the lost are resurrected first, thus given a physical body, then judged, then cast into the LOF. After all, it seems pretty silly that the soul that leaves the body upon death, that it consists of physical body parts. Not to mention, no one...