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Is that even a reasonable option, though? I wouldn't think so. Therefore, what you proposed per the 2nd option appears to be the more reasonable option.

Daniel 11:41 He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon. Some of us, probably not including you though, take this verse to be involving the final days...

IMO, it's equally irrational to conclude that anything pertaining to Ezekiel 38-39 is involving the same time period Revelation 20:7-9 is involving. The former is involving those that God is still hiding His face from until He executes His judgment on Gog and his multitude first. The latter is...

The Moabs could be on his chart except maybe they are no longer known as the Moabs in our day and time. That being one possible solution.

Why don't you already know that can't be true? You are obviously intelligent, therefore, you are without excuse. Just use your brain here for a moment. After all, these events are involving the last days. If the last days didn't even begin until Christ came first 2000 years ago, how then is it...

Point out some things that Esther records that agrees with things Ezekiel 38-39 records. A good place to start would be to show us in Esther what matches, thus agrees with what Ezekiel 38:16-23 records.

IOW, you can't refute what I submitted, so just blame it on my carnal mind then. That way you don't have to deal with any of my arguments. What a cop out on your part.

This would be a valid argument, only if God already executed His judgment on Gog and his multitude before the time involving Acts 2 occurred. Clearly, Ezekiel 39:29 is meaning after He executes that judgment, not prior to it instead.

I don't agree they are and here are a few reasons why. Revelation 20:7-9 involve people God is not hiding His face from. Ezekiel 38-39 involve people God is hiding His face from until He executes His judgment on Gog and his multitude. Ezekiel 39:21 And I will set my glory among the heathen...

IOW, if some of us correct this means you are basically mocking what God is going to do in the future. I'll just leave it that. I wrote some more things as well but decided to delete them before I posted this.

Let's look at some of this some more. Ezekiel 39:26 After that they have borne their shame, and all their trespasses whereby they have trespassed against me, when they dwelt safely in their land, and none made them afraid. 27 When I have brought them again from the people, and gathered them...

Even so, nothing pertaining to Matthew 27:52-53 involved anyone at the time rising to shame and everlasting contempt. If you disagree then point out which ones in particular in Matthew 27:52-53 are pertaining to someone that rose to shame and everlasting contempt at the time? Instead of always...

Why would it matter if one is deceived about that or not? It's not like a millennium after Christ returns can be faked somehow before or after He returns, thus deceive Premils into thinking it's a real millennium involving the real Christ when it isn't. OTOH, it is like a millennium before...

What some of you fail to grasp, every single time the Jews have been expelled from their land, they eventually return to it. The last time they were expelled was 70 AD, which means they have to return eventually, which is exactly what they began doing prior to the mid 20th century. They fit to a...

There is still chronology to consider regardless how one interprets these things. Because after Gog and his multitude are dead and buried, and if meaning in the end of this age involving the 2nd coming, we then have to explain all of the following since none of it can be meaning before Gog and...

What does that have to do with anything? Have you not noticed that the Jews come out to be the winners here, not the losers? The losers are the ones coming against them. If this actually happened in the past, Jews would be proud to admit it not deny it or try to hide the fact, the fact they are...

How does one explain the following then, since that is not something that happens everyday, and if it did happen in the past, it's not something they are going to forget anytime soon if this happened during their past history? Ezekiel 38:22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with...

Exactly! And some Amils can't seem to grasp that it makes zero sense that if someone has already put on bodily immortality at the last trump prior to the GWTJ, that they would then still be depicted as the dead then standing among those depicted as the dead. What is the point in putting on...

That's hardly accurate since some Jews do believe in Jesus as the Messiah. Not to mention as well, OT saints that are among the saved. What about any of them? Do any of them know anything about Ezekiel 38-39 having already been fulfilled sometime in their past history?

Can you point out in the following text below where you see any of the following standing in front of God to be judged along with the dead?(In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be...