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  1. No Pre-TB

    Will you be caught up in the rapture or left-behind??

    You are focusing on one interpretation and ignoring the other. Now, perhaps you had already looked into it, I don't know. But if not, we should always look at possibilities and rule them out using scripture. 1. Christ, a prince, made a covenant with many by his blood. He was the only prince...
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    Will you be caught up in the rapture or left-behind??

    There is nothing you have shown me that proves Satan is sealed, locked away, bound and in chains. 1 Peter states after Christ died and rose, Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: How does he walk around seeking...
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    3.5 Tribulation

    No, it is not. All Christian-esq type forums are riddled with many different views. For every person that says there still exists a 70th week, another says 3.5 or some other thing. One theory causes the believer to explain why there is a gap and to prove it which is difficult because it's not...
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    Poll: Truth7t7 most famous replies

    I agree with that statement. I was only replying to your previous one: This place does not say that Jesus will rule (lit. Shepherd) the nations with a rod of iron. I was offering a possible reason why some understand rule the nations as Shepherd the nations.
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    Will you be caught up in the rapture or left-behind??

    If Satan was sealed then, how do we explain Satan still roaming like a hungry lion? If he was sealed, how does he currently roam freely? If Satan was sealed then, how do we explain all the wars afterwards between nations that were deceived? Wars didn't end and people surely didn't beat their...
  6. No Pre-TB

    Poll: Truth7t7 most famous replies

    Cambridge: shall rule them] Lit., shall be their shepherd. Jamieson-Fausett-Brown: rule—literally, "rule as a shepherd." Vicent: Lit., shall shepherd As one says, so from this passage and Revelation 12:5, Revelation 19:15 we see that he accepted “rule” as the right reading. Apart from this...
  7. No Pre-TB

    Three Raptures

    David, sounds like he is confusing the definition of wrath versus tribulation - Deliverer from the wrath to come." Doesn't this refute your expectations of having to go through the Trib?
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    Three Raptures

    Famine has existed throughout history. This is nothing new under the sun. For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. 8All these are the beginning of sorrows. And what does Christ say about...
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    Will you be caught up in the rapture or left-behind??

    Ronald, I realize you were trying to make a point, but shouldnt we be careful what we say the Bible says versus what our opinion is? The Bible does not say the people of the prince to come is Antichrist. That is an opinion you believe, which the Bible does not conclusively say. It's a position...
  10. No Pre-TB

    Will you be caught up in the rapture or left-behind??

    I feel like this is clause is used in a way that was never intended. In this particular verse, the word that was translated to "escape" in English, does not have the meaning to avoid. Did Christ say we should pray to be counted worthy to avoid all the things that will come or did He say we...
  11. No Pre-TB

    A question about the rapture

    Joseph Mede said, Unquestionably the great APOSTASY and its concomitants do constitute the body, and are influenced by the spirit of the foretold Antichrist. Without going the length of saying that the Lord may not have allowed some individual or individuals in the past time : or may not be...
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    A question about the rapture

    I’m not here to teach. Bible study fellowship in Church is for that. Soul winning is for that. Talking to my neighbors is for that. I’m here to discuss things that I’m passionate about. You may think I’m wrong. Others thought Paul, all 12 disciples and Christ were wrong too. The difference is...
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    Three Raptures

    I don't know anyone that identifies as a Christian and believes we are appointed to wrath. The question is? What is God's out poured wrath. Pre-TB advocates miss the mark here. They constantly confuse thlipsis, where we get the word translated tribulation, as God's wrath. Yet tribulation, great...
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    Corrie Ten Boom, a Dutch Women that survived the Nazi's warns the church against Pre-Tribulation

    There is much back and forth on the subject of Pre-tribulation. This post is not meant to say what I think. Rather, it is an eyewitness account and opinion piece. Whether you are Pre-Tb or not, this letter is amazingly detailed and you can feel her spirit in her words. The world is deathly ill...
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    A question about the rapture

    @Spiritual Israelite @ewq1938 @jeffweeder @Davy I find it very disturbing when some are going this route. We all have differences in eschatology. Even when we agree on some parts, we may disagree on others. But this word should be seen by all the same way. It has not been tainted in almost 2...
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    A question about the rapture

    There is nothing that says, I’m not walking like Christ than this. Your testimony, your fruit…. Good news, you can change. It doesn’t have to be this way.
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    Will you be caught up in the rapture or left-behind??

    Hello Cady, I thought this commentary would fit with your general discourse with ewq. But his wife looked back from behind him — Herein she disobeyed an express command. Probably she hankered after her house and goods in Sodom, and was loath to leave them. Christ intimates this to be her sin...
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    Poll: Truth7t7 most famous replies

    1 Cor 15:23-25 says it is future. He must first reign. He is still in heaven making intercession. He has not come back yet. We have been made a Kingdom of Priests but we do not reign on earth yet with Him. We will not reign till we reign with Him, when he comes back, over the nations. And we do...
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    Poll: Truth7t7 most famous replies

    And they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection! The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and will reign with Him for a thousand years. When the thousand years are...
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    CORRECT END TIMES TIME LINE

    Are you channeling your inner Yoda? Honestly, I love this reply lol