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    Will you be caught up in the rapture or left-behind??

    Because the wrath of God started at the 1st seal? And since we are not for wrath, we are removed before his wrath begins at the Day of the Lord right? Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come. Rev 6:12 And...
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    Will you be caught up in the rapture or left-behind??

    Semantics, but every born again believer that is alive and survives to see his coming will be harpazod. Most will not be alive and survive. They will be dead and be part of the resurrection of the dead. Therefore, not every born again believer will be harpazod.
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    Pre-Trib Rapture Danger To Your Soul

    There is no scripture that teaches us there will be two harpazos. Those who are alive and survive till the end are removed one time. There is not a second "end" that a second group that is also alive and survives is also harpazod. Secondly, you are separating God's people from God's people. We...
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    Poll: Truth7t7 most famous replies

    Post 9. Power over the nations and ruling them with a rod of iron. Rev 2 Or Daniel 7 25And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the...
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    Poll: Truth7t7 most famous replies

    If the earth is dissolved, how do we rule the nations?
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    Poll: Truth7t7 most famous replies

    Aha ha! But it doesn't say on the Earth. Oh Nuts. I forgot Revelation 2 26And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: 27And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I...
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    Poll: Truth7t7 most famous replies

    No gossip. We love him. He’s part of the community and he has very well known replies he uses frequently.
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    Poll: Truth7t7 most famous replies

    We all know and love Truth7t7 right? But I think he's so well known for his famously copy/past replies. Which do you think he is most famous for? BTW, this is not to make fun but in loving fun. Be nice!
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    Pre-Trib Rapture Danger To Your Soul

    I don't think believing in the Pre-TB theory has anything to do with a Christian losing salvation. For me, I think it has to do with preparation. For those that are Pre-TB, bear with me for a moment and please assume you're wrong. In this moment, what would that mean? Are you ready to endure the...
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    The Covering Dynamic

    peace be on them, and mercy] This is probably a prayer, ‘May peace be on them’; though the original allows us to render, ‘Peace rests on them’. Peace in the soul, because of reconciliation with God. Peace with man through Him Who is ‘our peace’. But mercy also, as needed by sinners. and upon...
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    A question about the rapture

    How many times does Jesus descend from Heaven? According to how I understand you, it is 2 more times. Acts 3:20-21 says, 20And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: 21Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by...
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    The Covering Dynamic

    I supplied the verses and you are free to look them up and their context. As I stated, Romans 2:29, Romans 9:6-8, John 8:39, Galatians 6:16, Galatians 4:23 and 28, Genesis 21:12 with Hebrews 11:18, Romans 9:25-27, Romans 11:16-17, John 10:16, Ephesians 2:12; 14; 19, Philippians 3:3, Isaiah...
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    The Covering Dynamic

    What @marks basically said was correct. 1. There is a terrestrial realm and celestial realm. 1 Cor 15:40 2. Jesus comes to gather us to Him. 2 Thessalonians 2:1 3. the earth-dwellers are being tested Revelation 3:10 Your reply to his comment you quoted was odd.
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    The Covering Dynamic

    Arnt we all Israelites according to Romans 2:29, Romans 9:6-8, John 8:39, Galatians 6:16, Galatians 4:23 and 28, Genesis 21:12 with Hebrews 11:18, Romans 9:25-27, Romans 11:16-17, John 10:16, Ephesians 2:12; 14; 19, Philippians 3:3, Isaiah 44:5, Ezekiel 47:22-23, Hosea 1:10-11 just to name a...
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    The Covering Dynamic

    I always found it odd, that the Pre-Tbs I know would say, its not us that will be getting the Jews to turn from their way and believe (during the tribulation) cause well be gone off world. It'll be God's wrath on them again, that causes them to somehow turn. Now, I know the Holocaust was bad but...
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    A question about the rapture

    Hello @Jonatec It's wonderful when I see people all over the world, you're in Bulgaria and I'm in the USA, look to Christ. Our people all over and yet we all worship the same God. First, please understand that you'll get many different responses on these forums. In 2 Thess 1, Paul just...
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    The Covering Dynamic

    Gill. You still have room to grow. I have faith in you :)
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    The Covering Dynamic

    That is an excellent point. That is why we need to look ahead and reason how Christ removed those things rendering them invalid because many OT things were a shadow of better things to come. But a return to animal sacrifices instead of the blood of Christ would be to disavow his passion and look...
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    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Hello dad, It does sound like it because it happened in 70 AD. And it will happen again some day. But notice how the DotL has 2 things in it. It isnt a time period of only wrath, but it also has thlipsis in it. When is the wrath and when is the thlipsis? Secondly, we are told that we are...
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    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Yes, I am aware. I was trying to explain to him we are the Israel of God. But many churches today are still looking to Physical Israel and Jews by blood. Dispensationalism is something that really twist things