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    Which Millennium is better? Amil's or Premil's proposed millennium?

    What about verse 2 in Zechariah 14 then? Until that is fulfilled first, verse 12 can't be fulfilled in the meantime, in any sense. You don't interpret verse 2 to mean before the cross, do you? IOW, chronology is relevant in Zechariah 14 though some of these spiritual interpretations apparently...
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    Which Millennium is better? Amil's or Premil's proposed millennium?

    Who are these billions of satanists in the final days of your millennium since they have to be alive in the final days of your millennium if they are present after the final days of your millennium? Why do they need to be deceived yet again after your millennium when your millennium already has...
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    Which Millennium is better? Amil's or Premil's proposed millennium?

    Why would I be doing that, though? Maybe because you have done something similar to that to me in the past, insisted I was misrepresenting your view even though I wasn't. IOW, if you can dish it out you should be able to take it as well. I fully understand, that in your mind, if any of these...
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    The Future Great Tribulation Is 3.5 Years Long, The Beast And Two Witnesses Will Be On This Earth In Power Until The End

    IMO, everything pertaining to the 6th trumpet involves the 2nd woe, including the great earthquake in question and the 2Ws rising from the dead then ascending into heaven. None of that happens during the 3rd woe, the 7th trumpet. Revelation 11:12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying...
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    Which Millennium is better? Amil's or Premil's proposed millennium?

    Here's what sums up your post quite nicely--it's called doctrinal bias. That aside. Though, there might be some interpreters who take the plagues in verse 12 to be meaning the after affects of nuclear weapons, I'm not one that does. I can read what the text says. The text indicates God Himself...
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    Which Millennium is better? Amil's or Premil's proposed millennium?

    Zechariah 14:12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth...
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    Which Millennium is better? Amil's or Premil's proposed millennium?

    Sure, that is possible. But is that the case in this case? Maybe, maybe not. What about these locusts in Revelation 9? Aren't they in the same pit satan finds himself cast into? Why is it that it is as if they don't even exist while in the pit? What explains that? Until they are released from...
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    The Future Great Tribulation Is 3.5 Years Long, The Beast And Two Witnesses Will Be On This Earth In Power Until The End

    That is certainly true, the point you bring up. Yet all of that is meaning after the beast has already reigned for 42 months and after ppl have already been worshiping it for 42 months. @Timtofly position appears to be that the 42 month reign of the beast begins at the 7th trumpet and that...
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    Which Millennium is better? Amil's or Premil's proposed millennium?

    If you insist on having it your way, for starters then, convincingly explain Revelation 15:4 and show how that fits Amil not Premil. In particular, what I have underlined below. Keeping in mind that these judgments are not against any nations already doing that, these judgments are against any...
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    The Future Great Tribulation Is 3.5 Years Long, The Beast And Two Witnesses Will Be On This Earth In Power Until The End

    If Jesus is on the earth at the time, why do the 2Ws need to ascend to heaven? Jesus wouldn't even be there per this scenario. So much for any of the following being literally true if anyone leaves Jesus presence after He has returned, rather than continuing in His presence after He has...
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    Which Millennium is better? Amil's or Premil's proposed millennium?

    There is such a thing as delegates that can do that for each nation involved. But let's just pretend it is literally meaning every single person on the planet, that way the absurdity of such a thing as that alone disproves Premil. When is the last time you ever heard of, for example, the USA...
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    Which Millennium is better? Amil's or Premil's proposed millennium?

    In your mind only, is the debate already over. In my view, assuming there is a future millennium, it won't be about salvation since everyone that it to be eternally saved will already be so before the millennium begins. What then is the point of a future millennium, right? One point can maybe...
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    The Future Great Tribulation Is 3.5 Years Long, The Beast And Two Witnesses Will Be On This Earth In Power Until The End

    You're thinking on this is way out in left field. You're thinking on this a bit disturbing, actually. Why don't you start reading more carefully what some of the texts involved says and then begin using better discernment? For example, the following. Revelation 11:3 And I will give power unto...
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    Which Millennium is better? Amil's or Premil's proposed millennium?

    Hmmmm...You agree satan is not a created being? After all, you found his post to be great and he did say in that post satan is not a created being, did he not? Which either means God didn't create satan after all, that maybe satan has always existed the same way God has always existed? Or it...
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    The Rapture of the Church is not to Heaven

    I don't know if you are correct or not, but there appears to be numerous people who take the sea in the literal sense, that it means a literal body of water. Except some of what is recorded in Ezekiel 47 contradicts that. There is still a sea per Ezekiel 47 and that Ezekiel 47 is obviously...
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    The Rapture of the Church is not to Heaven

    Can you not read and comprehend what Ezekiel 47:12 plainly says? What do you take this to mean---neither shall the fruit thereof be consumed? Do you take that to mean no one ever eats of it, thus it is never consumed? Surely not. Surely then, it means the reason it is not consumed is because...
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    The Rapture of the Church is not to Heaven

    That means you are an Amil then since that is exactly what they believe as well.
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    The Rapture of the Church is not to Heaven

    Guess what? I already agree with you about what you submitted, even before you submitted it. I don't have a dispute with any of that. And I also don't agree with some Premils that this there will be this 3rd temple where animal sacrificing resumes. But even so, I still have to wonder why some of...
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    Which Millennium is better? Amil's or Premil's proposed millennium?

    Consider the following. It is raining cats and dogs outside. Even though the cats and dogs part is obviously not literal, the raining outside is obviously literal. You seem to think if something isn't literal nothing is literal. If that was true why is the raining outside literal while the cats...
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    The Rapture of the Church is not to Heaven

    Here is a question some of us need to be asking ourselves, including me. There are 9 chapters devoted to this temple. Why then would what you brought up be the only thing in these 9 chapters that are true, thus are fulfilled, while everything else is not true, thus not fulfilled? I wish I had an...