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Does this mean that you disagree that Jesus is meant in Revelation 19:15? If it wasn't already clear that Jesus is meant in verse 15, verse 16 makes it crystal clear that He is meant in verse 15. And verse 15 says he shall rule them with a rod of iron. Exactly what Revelation 12:5 says about...

Do you mean that long chain that is long as the world is round or maybe even longer? If satan can walk about and devour someone in the USA and also walk about and devour someone in Japan, I would say that's a pretty long chain tied to that dog. 1 Peter 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your...

Revelation 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up(harpazo) unto God, and to his throne. What about this verse then? How do you interpret this?

You lost me here. What nations did He gather together and then fight against at the time? Where can I read about this in the Bible or in any ancient history records? Zechariah 14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle ; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled...

Revelation 16:12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared. 13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the...

So much for Pretrib, right? One can't even put on immortality until the last trump. The last trump couldn't possibly be meaning before great tribulation, though. Then you have all these Pretribbers ascending to heaven in mortal bodies since they can't be immortal bodies if one can't obtain one...

You might be misunderstanding his post since he is Amil and is arguing against, not for, a future millennium? Or maybe I'm misunderstanding something here for all I know?

Can you explain the following if a real place is not meant by the pit? Luke 8:31 And they besought him that he would not command them to go out into the deep(abussos). This verse uses the very same Greek word that the book of Revelation uses for the pit, abussos. What is it about the deep...

And if the pit is the entire world, what is it supposed to mean when satan is no longer in the pit? That he is no longer in the world? But if he still in the world the logic per this scenario would have to be that he is still bound in the pit, right? Per Amil logic I guess we are all bound in...

What do you mean tell the truth? How am I failing to do that? Take for instance, any of the initial 12 disciples besides Judas. Obviously, OSAS applies to these disciples, NOSAS doesn't. Obviously, NOSAS applies to Judas, OSAS doesn't. Therefore, both positions are Biblical, and not this...

Hebrews 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance...

LOL. What a lame analogy. But you didn't come up with it though, therefore, you shouldn't take it personally. IOW, this is not the first time I have heard an Amil use that same exact analogy. Must be one long chain satan is bound with if he can devour someone in the USA and also devour someone...

Though, I think I get your point, but if one factors in Zechariah 14, everyone would already know who these mortals remaining are. They are the ones left of the nations which came against Jerusalem, but instead of the plague getting them too, they are spared to live another day. I tend to take...

I'm not entirely understanding what you are meaning here. Can you provide some Scriptures that illustrate what you are meaning here? I need to get on the same page with you before I can decide whether you are right or wrong.

You must have reading comprehension or something. Nowhere did I say I reject OSAS. I'm not the one rejecting anything, you are. You are rejecting that NOSAS is also Biblical.

Being shown something is not always necessarily the same thing as proving something.

You misunderstood the OP if you take the OP to be meaning that. How can mortals that end up rebelling after the millennium be among the just and righteous during the millennium? They can't. They dwell among the just and righteous during the millennium, and that the just and righteous are keeping...

Here's the problem as I see it. I do not deny that OSAS is Biblical. You apparently deny that NOSAS is also Biblical. Plus, you are somewhat of a Calvinist, right? If yes, we are never going to see eye to eye about some of these things, since a Calvinist is something that I'm not nor want any...

Over the past 2000 years there have been places and people that the gospel never reached but reaches eventually. What's in question is, the time periods involving the gospel not having reached any of these places and people yet. How would they even know to repent if the gospel hadn't even...

Maybe these 3 and 1/2 days are symbolic for something rather than literal. Because look what it leads to if taken literally. It leads to a contradiction involving the following. Matthew 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. What you...