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  1. keithr

    What is "Parousia"?

    So what if God's name (YHVH) is not written in the New Testament? The Old Testament is still Gods word, and the Old Testament tells us God's name is YHVH. Jesus said that his Father was God, therefore his and our Father's name is YHVH. It's not rocket science - you should be able to...
  2. keithr

    What is "Parousia"?

    I did NOT say that we should not honour Jesus. Jesus prayed to God (YHVH) many times, sometimes even staying up all night in prayer. He taught his disciples to pray to "our Father in heaven" - Matthew 6:9 (WEB): (9) Pray like this: ‘Our Father in heaven, may your name be kept holy. [And...
  3. keithr

    What is "Parousia"?

    I guess you didn't bother reading the post/video that I linked to. In that verse, Jesus was claiming to be the Messiah, not claiming to be God. 1 Corinthians 8:4-6 (WEB): (4) Therefore concerning the eating of things sacrificed to idols, we know that no idol is anything in the world, and that...
  4. keithr

    What is "Parousia"?

    Jesus did, however, say: John 20:17 (WEB): (17) Jesus said to her, “Don’t hold me, for I haven’t yet ascended to my Father; but go to my brothers, and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’” God (YHVH) is Yeshua's Father, but YHVH is not Yeshua...
  5. keithr

    What is "Parousia"?

    It is apparent that Jesus is not God from 1 Corinthians 15:24-28 (WEB): (24) Then the end comes, when he will deliver up the Kingdom to God, even the Father; when he will have abolished all rule and all authority and power. (25) For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his...
  6. keithr

    The Rapture vs. the Pre-tribulational Rapture

    1 Peter 4:6 (WEB): (6) For to this end the Good News was preached even to the dead, that they might be judged indeed as men in the flesh, but live as to God in the spirit. So Peter was saying in verse 6 that the Gospel was preached to Christians who are now dead, so that although they were...
  7. keithr

    The Rapture vs. the Pre-tribulational Rapture

    I'm not trying to confuse you or anybody else. I'm just trying to help you understand what it means and to harmonise the Scriptures. From one end of the sky to the other simply means as far as you can see, effectively 'the whole world'. That's the same meaning as "gather from the four winds"...
  8. keithr

    The Rapture vs. the Pre-tribulational Rapture

    You are jumping to the wrong conclusion. I am not anti-KJV. I just said that its translation of this verse was ambiguous because the Greek word ouranos can be translated as sky or heaven, and I think they chose the wrong interpretation in this case (as the translators of other Bible...
  9. keithr

    The Rapture vs. the Pre-tribulational Rapture

    When Matthew uses the term "his disciples" he was normally referring to Jesus' 12 disciples, who Jesus chose, and who were all Jews (one of whom went on to betray him, and was therefore not one of God's elect). John 8:31 (WEB): Jesus therefore said to those Jews who had believed him, “If you...
  10. keithr

    The Rapture vs. the Pre-tribulational Rapture

    Matthew 24:29 (WEB): (29) Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: That seems to me to be describing events after the great Tribulation...
  11. keithr

    The Rapture vs. the Pre-tribulational Rapture

    Actually Jesus was speaking to his diciples only - Matthew 24:3 (WEB): (3) As he sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be? What is the sign of your coming, and of the end of the age?”
  12. keithr

    The Rapture vs. the Pre-tribulational Rapture

    You have misunderstood the verse because of the ambiguous KJV translation. The word translated as heaven can also be translated (more apropriately in this case) as sky. It says "from the four winds", an expression that means everywhere on the earth, e.g. : Jeremiah 49:36 (WEB): (36) I will...
  13. keithr

    The Rapture vs. the Pre-tribulational Rapture

    The elect that are referred to as being gathered in verse 31 are not the church; they are the great multitude of people that live through the great tribulation, mentioned in Revelation 7 (WEB): (13) One of the elders answered, saying to me, “These who are arrayed in the white robes, who are...
  14. keithr

    How was Paul : the chief of Sinners....the ULTIMATE Sinner?

    If we read a bit more context we see that Paul considered that he used to be the chief of sinners, but that he had been mercifully forgiven and he no longer sinned like he used to. The "I am chief" could be translated as "I have been chief". 1 Timothy 1:12-16 (WEB): (12) I thank him who...
  15. keithr

    Who are the 144,000?

    I disagree with that. Ephesians 1:3-14 (WEB): (3) Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ; (4) even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and without...
  16. keithr

    Who are the 144,000?

    In chapter 7 they are on the earth, which is why the angels are told not to harm the earth, and those on it, until the 144,000 have been sealed. In chapter 9 they are still on the earth: (4) They were told that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any...
  17. keithr

    Who are the 144,000?

    The resurrected church is all those Christians who are resurrectred in the first resurrection, including those that are raptured (like an instant death and resurrection). The 144,000 are clearly not a part of the resurrected church. They just are a separate group! I think you have said that...
  18. keithr

    24 Elders

    Except that the innumerable multitude are only those people that believed in Jesus during the Great Tribulation (Revelation 7:14). What about all the Christians that lived from Jesus' first advent up to the rapture? They were all resurrected in the first resurrrection before the Great...
  19. keithr

    24 Elders

    I don't think we can be 100% sure that we correctly understand all of the Scriptures while we are still human. As Paul said, 1 Corinthians 13 (WEB): (12) For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I will know fully, even as I was also fully known...
  20. keithr

    24 Elders

    Revelation 4:2 (WEB): (2) Immediately I was in the Spirit. Behold, there was a throne set in heaven, and one sitting on the throne It doesn't describe what God looks like, it just says "one sitting on the throne", which leads us to suspect that John saw a man, i.e. that God, like the 24...