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  1. Timtofly

    Who, or what, is the dreaded bogey man of prophecy?

    Not all of the redeemed were in their graves in Jerusalem. Not all of the dead were given physical bodies. Your argument is like saying the rapture is only going to happen to those in Jerusalem, and no where else in the world. You have still not explained why or how the same soul would...
  2. Timtofly

    When was Satan cast out of heaven, down to the earth?

    Don't ever again try to teach anyone to stop using the vague OT passages to interpret the more specific NT passages either, then?
  3. Timtofly

    When was Satan cast out of heaven, down to the earth?

    Obviously you can believe whatever pops into your head. Most people do.
  4. Timtofly

    When was Satan cast out of heaven, down to the earth?

    Are you figuratively reigning or literally reigning? Is Jesus a figurative being or literal? Is time figurative or literal? Why is every part of this chapter literal to you, except the length? Is a thousand dollars as literal as a thousand years?
  5. Timtofly

    When was Satan cast out of heaven, down to the earth?

    Peter does not use a thousand in a figurative sense. Why would Peter compare two figurative items? The Day of the Lord is the figurative term compared to a specific amount, a thousand years. Peter was talking about the coming Day of the Lord. He was not talking about how long it would be...
  6. Timtofly

    When was Satan cast out of heaven, down to the earth?

    Revelation 20 is not comparing this time with something else. That alone should indicate a specific amount of time. If you offered me a 1,000 dollar bill with Grover Cleveland's face on it, can I demand that you give me 2,000 dollars? Should we compare that specific offer with something...
  7. Timtofly

    When was Satan cast out of heaven, down to the earth?

    Only because you think he was ever given all that power. You are wrong, because Satan never had that power ever, to have it all taken away. Satan was called the prince of this world, and the power of the air. That was not power over humans, but the ability to roam freely between heaven...
  8. Timtofly

    When was Satan cast out of heaven, down to the earth?

    Satan was not deceiving people prior to the Flood. Satan was not even ruling over people prior to the Flood. There was no Law Covenant, nor Covenant of grace prior to the Flood. All of Adam's offspring except Noah were all wicked. They were worse than their father Adam. You are not...
  9. Timtofly

    The Prophetic Timeline: Why Jesuit Futurists/Jesuit Preterists Ignore It

    That is an historical shift, as the other 6 heads of the dragon were all in the past, prior to the Second Coming. The ten horns are after the Second Coming. That is the shift in power. The 7th head of the dragon is Satan. The ten horns would be on that head, not any of the others from...
  10. Timtofly

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    This thread is about the tribulation. You changed the subject. You are a Mormon in regards to the post tribulation position. Calling people cults because of their belief in the post tribulation stance is your MO. You agree with the Mormons on the thread topic, so just admit that you are a...
  11. Timtofly

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You inexplicably don't understand the answer Jesus gave in private to His disciples. You have no proof that what Luke 21 records was given on the mount of Olives, nor in private to His disciples. The disciples of Jesus were already scattered across the empire spreading the Gospel or already...
  12. Timtofly

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    That is all logical, but not really practical nor even plausible. You deny that those beheaded in Revelation 20 are connected to this point about the image, but worship and the mark go hand in hand. "And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the...
  13. Timtofly

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The 42 months come after the 7th Trumpet, so that debunks leaving after the 42 months at the 7th Trumpet. The 7th Trumpet has the 3rd woe attached to when it sounds. The third woe are those 42 months after Satan is cast out of heaven, and is allowed to have a 42 month one world...
  14. Timtofly

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    How can the great tribulation of Jacob in 70AD when the dead are raised to life happen 2,000 years before the Second Coming tribulation? That is worse contorting of Scripture than a pre-trib scenario. The church is not Jacob. Jeremiah 30:7 "Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like...
  15. Timtofly

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    That is not the only description in Scripture about the Day of the Lord. You don't even post the text. So you actually don't have any parts on the Day of the Lord, other than the made up imagined opinion it is a literal 24 hour day. The Day of the Lord was first mentioned in the OT in...
  16. Timtofly

    Who, or what, is the dreaded bogey man of prophecy?

    Because God creates a permanent soul, not one that has to constantly be sustained by an outside power source. Obviously without God, nothing would exist, but do you think God is analogous to electricity? There is more physicality to the soul than light. Even God is called light, but God does...
  17. Timtofly

    Who, or what, is the dreaded bogey man of prophecy?

    So you are saying you are not a Christian? Just a papal hater? Most Protestants are papal haters, but still Christians. You seem to call all Protestants just catholic agreeers. Protestants are still under the Catholic catechism, but free of the papacy. I am none of the above, and...
  18. Timtofly

    Who, or what, is the dreaded bogey man of prophecy?

    It is not the union of air nor the Holy Spirit with a physical body. It is you, the soul that has union with the body. The body is not in union with the Holy Spirit as a body of death. Air does not have a union with the body. So is the breath of God, just air, or the Holy Spirit? You...
  19. Timtofly

    The Lord will fight for Israel and Jerusalem; Zech. 12

    Can you prove that the fire mentioned in 2 Peter 3 will last for a thousand years? No one is saying that the Day of the Lord is a thousand year long fire. How long does it take to baptize the earth in fire? Matthew 3:11-12 "I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance. but he that...
  20. Timtofly

    The Lord will fight for Israel and Jerusalem; Zech. 12

    Why must you judge others on their spiritual discernment? Many here just slap that word "spiritual" on their post as if it means something. Their post with the word spiritual is no more having spiritual discernment than the post you replied to claiming "having a lack of spiritual...