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  1. Timtofly

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Only those beheaded escape the wrath of God, which happens while the 2 witnesses are laying dead in Jerusalem for 3.5 days, just prior to Armageddon. So either you have the mark, don't have a head any more, or lying dead in Jerusalem. There is no 4th option found, other than the church...
  2. Timtofly

    The Prophetic Timeline: Why Jesuit Futurists/Jesuit Preterists Ignore It

    The 7th head is Satan. Satan's home is the pit. It is like Satan has deceived the nations of the world and will keep deceiving them until they are destroyed at Armageddon, and Satan is bound for a thousand years.
  3. Timtofly

    The Prophetic Timeline: Why Jesuit Futurists/Jesuit Preterists Ignore It

    This is also incorrect. Greece is not the beast either. The beast of the 8th kingdom is the head of the dragon, Satan himself. He was, literally always was, is not part of humanity, but will take over along with 10 future kings with no nation or kingdom, and rule earth for 42 months. Then...
  4. Timtofly

    Who, or what, is the dreaded bogey man of prophecy?

    You can be a light bulb. I will stick with being an eternal soul, waiting for my permanent incorruptible physical body, upon the dissolution of the contract with death, placed on my current corruptible body of death. Yet you do not equate that electricity being symbolic of the Holy Spirit...
  5. Timtofly

    Who, or what, is the dreaded bogey man of prophecy?

    Those in Christ are not dead ever again. Do you not believe the Words of Jesus? John 11:23-26 "Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again. Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day. Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the...
  6. Timtofly

    Post the prophecy

    From your post: James points out that what Peter said included the Gentiles and agrees with the OT, but is not instead of Israel. The remnant of Israel, and all the Gentiles, yes, but after the return. You have placed all your emphasis on the first century. Jesus came in the first...
  7. Timtofly

    Who, or what, is the dreaded bogey man of prophecy?

    Adam's fallen humanity represents the number just by being born of Adam. But God places the mark, after the 7th Trumpet, as an expiration stamp, because time for redemption is up after the 7th Trumpet starts to sound. For 42 months there will only be two choices. Receive the expiration mark...
  8. Timtofly

    Who, or what, is the dreaded bogey man of prophecy?

    You rely on your faulty interpretation of Daniel that extends to the Second Coming. Daniel "saw" the Messiah the Prince (Jesus Crist as King) as one event. Revelation explains that Jesus will be on the earth two times separated by a long interval. All we know from Daniel is past history...
  9. Timtofly

    Who, or what, is the dreaded bogey man of prophecy?

    Then you will not like 2 Corinthians 5:1 "For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens." Did you know that the Greek word translated dissolved here means to no longer be in union with...
  10. Timtofly

    Who, or what, is the dreaded bogey man of prophecy?

    The soul is not reliant on the body, but on God. You are not a light in a bulb. You are a soul that Paul clearly states can change bodies without dropping in and out of existence. Is God's breath, literal air, or something much more like God, ie the Holy Spirit? You seem to have Hebrew all...
  11. Timtofly

    Who, or what, is the dreaded bogey man of prophecy?

    The body returns to dust. The soul will eventually be given a body or tossed into the LOF. "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." English is full of parallels: Trinity is the...
  12. Timtofly

    Mystery Babylon is a CITY Per God's Word

    "And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified." Where is the word "in" found in this verse? John is talking about earthly Jerusalem using spiritual metaphor throughout the book. "And the woman...
  13. Timtofly

    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    The elect is not a remnant. You are adding that to the chapter. "As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes." All of Israel is elect, even if there is blindness in part. You say only the non elect are...
  14. Timtofly

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    According to what? The church does not descend until after the Millennium. You have to have the church taken away first. The Millennium is not over in a twinkling of an eye. You have yet to prove a Second Coming after the millennium or post Millennial. You have not even proven the...
  15. Timtofly

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Do you think then that the NHNE started in Genesis 1, and Revelation 21 is actually Genesis 1, and we will just be in an eternal time loop? How could Jesus go away and then prepare the next creation immediately upon going away? That is a messed up time frame. Jesus is the alpha and omega...
  16. Timtofly

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Notice that at the time Jesus spoke even before His death burial and resurrection there were already mansions in heaven? Jesus went away to prepare something. How about Jesus went away to create the heavens and earth in Genesis 1:1? Since they already had Genesis. That is the answer in the...
  17. Timtofly

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You did not establish the Second Coming at the end of any millennium. This thread is about a pre-trib rapture, which is actually a pre-trib Second Coming. The absurdity in your position is that you leave out all the Scripture that shows Jesus and the angels are on the earth during the final...
  18. Timtofly

    Who, or what, is the dreaded bogey man of prophecy?

    You stubbornly refuse to see that no one can know who those ten horns are until the Second Coming. For starters the horns are not kingdoms. Even the horns in Daniel are not kingdoms. The horns in Revelation are not the ten toes. The tens toes are the 5th Kingdom after Rome the 4th kingdom...
  19. Timtofly

    Who, or what, is the dreaded bogey man of prophecy?

    The Bible does not say "the consequences of the union of". That is a fact. Why are you adding something that is not there. You became a living soul. That is a fact. The verse does not say that "now with the consequences of the union of" God gave you (a physical body), a soul. When you...
  20. Timtofly

    Who, or what, is the dreaded bogey man of prophecy?

    The Holy Spirit is God as part of the Trinity. How can you say the Holy Spirit is God's breath? That verse states the Holy Spirit of God hath made me. God gives you life, because God breathed life into you. That does not negate the point you are a soul in a physical body, waiting to put on...