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That verse does not say men rise from the sea as opposed to the earth. What verse says verbatim men “rise from the sea” as shown in Daniel 7 and elsewhere men/kings/false prophet “rise from the earth”! The idea of immanence is proven false. How could Christ come any day if Peter had known how...

Did Christ go to paradise the day he died till he rose 3 days later? Does any other scripture mention where he was in those 3 days?

I believe you’re adding. Jesus only said today you will be with me in paradise doesn’t always mean that day. Context is key right? 1. Where is the comma? Is it: I say unto you, Today you will be with me in paradise or; I say unto you Today, you will be with me in paradise The context is the...

Maybe that’s where your fallen angels are hiding out lol!

The thief on the cross was perfected and promised paradise, not heaven. As he said to Christ: Remember me when thou cometh into thy kingdom! The kingdom on earth in the New Jerusalem is the paradise of God.

What! The man of sin is Mystery Babylon? How is a man symbolized as a women when her flesh is eaten and destroyed by the beast of the sea and the 10 horns in Rev 17. The 10 horns and the beast of the sea kill the man of sin that you identify as the beast of the sea? Huh? This forum gets weirder...

It’s interesting that SDA’s are always trying to convince everyone else what their doing is right; as if they aren’t sure themselves and they need others to agree with them. Don't deal In conspiracy theories…not good for anyone!

How do you think sheol or the realm of dead spirits gets thrown into the lake of fire? You said earlier you understand proper hermeneutics. There are many different rules such as scripture validates scripture. If we take this literally and see nothing out of place as the words do not seem odd...

Where? I keep asking for the book and the Ch. and verse. Isaiah what? What type of copout is that? Job is just as useful as any other part of the Bible. Really, you're avoiding it because you cannot answer it. Thats good, but the majority Pre-TB proponents do. And that single verse, among...

Let's look at this logically. If the beast of the sea is the 11th horn as you contend, then the beast of the sea is also the 1st horn, the 2nd horn...all 10 horns. Why is that? Its sounds crazy! Because all 10 horns are on the beast of the sea, as also the 11th will be. If you're adamant about...

I dont understand how people cannot see it. I know we all didnt see it till we did, including you and I. But it was never painted for me by someone. We are presenting it just as scripture says it and people are blind to it. It amazes me.

Please supply me the verse that proves a man rises from the sea Also, I am repasting the below (from #120) since you did not respond to it. First question, I’ve asked this before without a response: Job 14:12 So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not...

Mr Milam, For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: First: firstly (in time, place, order, or importance) Brown puts it: it simply stands in opposition to "then," 1Th 4:17...

Ronald, I am not reinterpreting anything. I’m taking into account what is written, looking into the context, the Greek and parallel scriptures to understand and prayer. I also attend a church that styles itself as a “Fundamental Bible Believing Baptist Church”, though I agree on most things in...

No, you’re saying that. Scripture says the dead rises first. The dead and the living do not rise together. You can try to spin it, but going to the clouds isn’t the blink of an eye. The change to immortality is the blink of an eye. The living go AFTER the dead and how much time is in between? We...

Ronald, there are many theories out there on this and obviously, you know they are not all right. There has been a great mistake made by churches in that some things taught from prophecy are really mistakes. Churches have really done a poor job at prophecy in general. Its not a subject Pastors...

Yes Ronald. Christ returns, to his Kingdom and removes OUT of his Kingdom the beast of the sea, the false prophet and Satan. As far as Armageddon goes, that's detailed in the bowls. I'm not sure I understand your trope Ronald. I am not a Jehovah Witness. Really, I am a born again Christian and I...

Ronald, if I may, please humor me and look at this. Rev 19:6 says, And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth. You make a good observation. This is not...

Youre making the mistake of taking the Ch.’s chronologically. How Does the beast rising in Ch. 13 kill the 2 witnesses in Ch 11? Remember, there were not Ch.s when written When did I say Gabriel? Huh? No, he returns after the 7th Trumpet is blown No. The bowls happen in his kingdom, after he...

No, the 7th trumpet precedes the bowls. edit: If you’d like to talk about timelines, let me know. Perhaps that’s easier to understand one another. Youre right. How did I decide that? In verse 6, we’re told Christ begins to reign. In Revelation 11:15-18 were shown he begins to reign...