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Postrib rapture, according to their own testimony, originated in the catholic church. Not surprising that they agree, and both despise the thought of a pre-trib rapture.

One thing I have noticed about Doctrine. When one's Doctrine is correct it continually lines up with the word of God it's like a basket weave. It's all interconnected and it builds upon itself. So I find it interesting in the following verses in rev 5; 9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou...

Nobody believes the dead in Christ follow those raptured alive.

When he made the boast, he never said it was a bet He only offered you $30 of you could find a certain statement in his posts. Now he wants it to be a bet. ...yet another thing he switches around on.

Both sides believe exactly that.

In your model, unbeknownst to you, there is NO BUYING OR SELLING, NO NORMAL LIFE. And yet you can not comprehend that. You can not comprehend your OWN MODEL.

So you are watchtower? Some other affiliation?

Is Jesus created, or the creator?

I gave you two concepts. Basic and easy. Go ahead Make those concepts apply to your beliefs.

We all agree he returns postrib

You just posted verses that line up perfectly with the pretrib rapture

1) the Ac kills all refusing the mark 2) those left behind are martyred as is declared in Revelation. 3) the 2 escape verses are a big problem for the honest Bible student 4) "like manner return" is EXACTLY opposite your model . 5) Rev 14 :14 is not the white horse return...even in the most...

Seems like you are trying to prove that God has never gathered up his people and delivered them pre-tribulation. And so you're going to have a hard time with that because you got Lot ,and the baby Jesus, both gathered up and delivered pre-tribulation. Now let's take a look at Noah . way...

Anyone can see normal life , commerce, building, planting. Your model is OPPOSITE THAT. YOU ARE PRETENDING the words are not there. Your doctrine did that to you.

Total and complete opposite of what you just twisted the Bible. Luke 17 26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. 27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the...

Read we who overcomes who in Rev. Amazing your doctrine never goes there! Post trib Doctrine is oblivious to the fact That the Antichrist is given power To overcome the Saints...HUH???? then it talks about The believer Overcoming The Antichrist . It says That the believer Overcomes the...

So you are saying Jesus sitting on a cloud, holding a sickle, not wearing a crown, not commanding an army, and no sword in his hand, is actually Jesus sitting on a white horse , with millions of white horses blackening the sky, commanding an army, with a sword in his hand, a crown on his head...

Maybe he can apologize for Lot removed pretrib and his angels claiming he will come in "like manner". Then that "fibber Jesus" , as you call him, can understand He is supposed to come after Sodom destroyed, and after the flood to gathered Lot and Noah. Then correct his fibber angels, that His...

What does oil represent in the Bible? Does it ever represent the Holy Spirit.? Is the white horse coming at the rapture?

In Acts chapter 1 we see Jesus ascending into heaven with the angels declaring to the disciples that "this same Jesus shall return in like manner." That is not on horses, millions of them, blackening the sky, with a warrior king leading them into battle. Revelation 14 and verse 14, has Jesus...