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So... understood. Fair warning, I'm gonna get a little long-winded here... :) I'm going to focus on your numbers 1, 2, and 3 above, and your assertion that number 3 is correct (bolded). I think you're being too strict (that may not be the correct term to use, there, 'strict,' but I think...

Correct. :) No, what you're talking about regarding "at the Lord's return" is the second resurrection, which is unlike the first resurrection in that it is bodily, and also that it is general and not restricted to the saints only. We should see this second resurrection having happened just...

Read what Paul writes to the elect in Ephesus and see if you don’t see a resurrection there, 3R. You should… No, because Jesus was and is God, as well as man; He was never in need of being born again of the Spirit, and was not raised from death in sin as we have been. Our part in the second...

No one is doing that, Ghada. When you stop kidding yourself ~ deceiving yourself, as John says ~ about being able to cease sinning in this life, let me know. :) Well, right. God “has mercy on whomever He wills, and He hardens whomever He wills.” Those are Paul’s exact words in Romans 9:18...

Not bad; a bit of a mixed bag… EXCELLENT! :). I mean… not hard to discern. But great! Thank you. :) Ugh. No, that His resurrection makes ours possible… and certain. You do get that last part (possible and certain) right, so not all of what you say here is bad… :) Ugh. This is a conflation...

Not physically, no. I would answer your question with a question: Did Adam and Eve really die as God told Adam he would on the very day he ate from the forbidden tree (Genesis 2:17)? And, regarding us believers, Paul and Peter both say we were made alive when we were converted to Christ; Paul...

That’s at least part of it, I agree. Right, but there’s more to this being dead than many realize, too. There are dead people walking among us even now. But some will not remain in that condition. :) Thanks! Although… I don’t think Ghada is being very nice. But that’s… okay. :) Grace and...

LOL! See, here again, I don’t even know what this means… Uh, well, yes… :) and for ours… :) Ah, so you can see hearts, as God does… Through your computer screen… I seeeeee…. LOL! None of us do. Not you, not me, not anybody, in this life. Unless one wants to just lie to himself, maybe, but I...

Let’s see… Not if they don’t want to see it, no. :) I’m not really trying to show errors in your arguments, Ghada. What I hope is that you’ll see them for yourself, my friend. Well, but who’s saying such a ridiculous thing? Certainly not I… :) You and I (and a lot of other saints) are alive...

This is a misunderstanding and mis-ordering if things described in Revelation 11-15 and mid-synthesizing Daniel’s prophecy with John’s. I don’t totally disagree with you, Timtofly, but at least to a significant degree. I’ll just say the following here: * The 42 months and 1260 days of...

My comments above were just regarding Zechariah 14:16-19, and I stand by those comments. But on the whole of Zechariah 14, we agree more than you think, I think… :). I’ll just say the following, some of which may be a repeat of things I’ve said before: In chapter 13, Zechariah speaks of the...

First, a digression, although with a very pointed purpose... :) Here's an account of my Christmas season: 1. I really enjoyed the Advent Season of 2023. It certainly ended on a triumphant note! 2. We worshiped God and celebrated Christ's first Advent for the full month of December and even...

When Christ Jesus returns, He returns. As Paul says, "...the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God" (1 Thessalonians 4:16). Agreed. But "extending the time"? No... :) The 42 months, or three and...

And "pass away" can be ~ and should be, regarding what is being discussed here ~ understood in a very different way than "cease to be/exist" or in the sense of annihilation or obliteration or literally burned up. I've echoed it many times from Scripture: God is not "making all new things," but...

Is a misunderstanding. Wow. Ah, Ezekiel 18:30-32... So often misconstrued... Here, repentance is not being urged on Jerusalem, for the preceding chapters affirm that its destruction is assured. Rather, the exiles are pressed to repent and take responsibility for their moral lives. Thus...

I did. :) ...in your opinion. I understand. And you think I don't, I guess; I'm perfectly fine with that. :) Ah, free will... No one denies we have free will, Ghada. No one. But it's not about the will... not initially, anyway. So to your "ungrounded philosophic theology" comment, that...

One of my favorites... Man, Bono looks so young, there...

Hmm, well, I would disagree regarding Satan's perspective, but good. Well, I say after the millennium does come to an end, because it has not... yet. :) But we may be very, very close to it coming to an end. We'll agree to disagree on that... :) Grace and peace to you.

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It doesn't, but that's because the focus of Revelation 19... particularly verses 11-21... is different than Revelation 20 (and the first eight verses of Revelation 21). But here is the problem for so many in reading Revelation: not all the events of Revelation 20 are chronologically subsequent...