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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    Right; not surprising. Because, David, that's a response to Randy, and you and he are presumably at least somewhat like-minded. I would prefer a response to what I posted. But, if you choose not to do that, that's fine with me; suit yourself. Just say so, one way or the other, as that would...
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    Well, yes, they will be resurrected to eternal life, sure. Interesting. What about all those who are at that time since physically deceased? And how might you reconcile what you say here, Randy, with what Jesus says in John 5:28-29? For convenience: "Do not marvel at this, for an hour is...
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    Zechariah 14:16-19... So, I've posted twice now, in short order, too, really, an explanation of this passage in relation to Revelation 20. And WPM gave it a "Like," which would presumably mean he (or she?) is in agreement with it. But it seems to be falling on deaf ears for some reason or...
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    Right, ridiculous reasons. As I said, just because someone disagrees with something doesn't mean they don't grasp it. And in the context that you say this, amillennialists would turn that right back around on premillennialists. But nobody "tries to make things mean anything they don't mean,"...
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    Well, yes, and this will be in eternity, the age to come, in which there will be no more sin or death. The Israel of God never was, is not now, and never will be a nation-state. Though not complete yet, it now includes people of every tongue, tribe, and people-group... all those in Christ...
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    LOL! Well, I would state it in a much more congenial, good-spirited way, but basically would say the same things the other way around; this is precisely what premillennialism does. Anyone can "grasp" anything, even two or more things that are diametrically opposed, but acceptance is of course...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    Hmm, well, you're certainly entitled to your opinion, for sure. But you seem to be acknowledging that it will happen, and I would submit to you and RGB that, in Romans 11, especially in verse 26, that that's exactly what Paul is doing. And by "en masse," I don't mean "all Jews," and neither...
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    But you must have some rationale for believing what you do, right? Much agreed. I would submit to you, Randy, that Jeremiah prophesies of the millennial period/kingdom throughout chapter 31 of his work, especially verses 31-34: “Behold, the days are coming, declares the LORD, when I will make...
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    Ah. Why, Randy? Grace and peace to you.
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    There are a lot of Jews in this world, GB. We know this. And at the end of the millennium, there will be a mass conversion among Jews to Christianity in a very short time; it might be interesting to know roughly how many, but there is no need for hard numbers. Goodness gracious. Okay, fair...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    Great! So…. :) Well, I’m not an advocate of the post-millennial view… yes, we are very much (and literally:)) I’m the millennium, and maybe very close to the end of it. I’m… sure you do. :) Oh yes, His return will certainly be literal, and His eternal reign will be. I’m not sure how anything...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    No, he certainly does not. :) I think you have misunderstood what I said, RWB. I don’t see how, really, but so it is. Yes, I’ve said this many times. But still, what you say above is not what I have said. Grace and peace to you.
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    Agree... Disagree. The thousand years is His millennial reign, and He rules through that age from heaven. When the millennium is over, He will return, and His eternal reign ~ with us here on earth, in which sin and death will be completely defeated ~ will begin. And have, of course, no end...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    Paul explicitly indicates a sequence in Romans 11:25-26, where the fullness of the Gentiles come in to Israel, and then the partial hardening is removed. There are some Jews coming to Christ, and actually probably at an increasing rate. So, if you want to say both happen over roughly (or even...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    Ugh. :) Jewish people are Jewish people, GB, whether Hasidic, or Orthodox, or any other type, or if they consider themselves "not religious" or are unaffiliated with any of the different classifications of Judaism. Ethnic Jews, GB. Good Lord. Are you trying to catch me in some kind of...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    If they claim Christ as their Savior ~ and I know quite a few that have come to do so; we call them Messianic Jesus ~ then I'd say that's pretty accurate. LOL! Oh, my... Well, now that's a really good question in and of itself, but is really irrelevant to what you and I are talking, here, GB...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    Well, that's fine that you believe that, RWB, and there's no need to quibble. However, I would ask, do you just believe that because you believe it? Or do you have something in God's Word that you think backs that up? Grace and peace to you, RWB... you crazy ammillennialist, you. :)
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    Right, which means, in the apocalyptic, visionary context of John’s narrative, Satan is unable to prevent the spread of the Gospel to the nations. And we see the Gospel spreading like wildfire, especially in places like Africa and Asia. Only if we misconstrue Satan’s deception of the nations...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    Our God is a consuming fire, David. Grace and peace to you.
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    Sure. :) Right, nobody can claim that Satan is loosed with any real credibility. He may be, but I don't think so yet. LOL! Just pay attention to what you see, Grafted Branch. That's all we can do. My goodness. Keeping records... LOL! No... LOL! Well, no... LOL! But we know it's...