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Thanks for that explanation, I find it interesting. I’m going to have to think about it and take a closer look.

This is the first time I’ve come across this idea. In Revelation 11:3 power is given to the two witnesses and they prophesy 1260 days. In Revelation 11:9 “their dead bodies” seems to be referring back to the two witnesses, so where are you differentiating the two witnesses and two prophets? Is...

I agree with most of your post, the numbers 10, 12, and 144 are very significant and need to be looked at as not necessarily being a literal number. However there were literally 12 tribes and 12 apostles so it’s not inconceivable that there could be an exact 144,000. I’m not dogmatic about it...

Alright, so why can the 144000 be numbered but the multitude is a number no man can count? I know 144 has spiritual meaning as 12 X 12 but that means a spiritually minded person can spiritually count the multitude, yet it says no man can number (spiritually or otherwise). Doesn’t this point to...

Ok, in Revelation 11:1 John is told to measure the temple and them that worship therein. In verse 2 he is told not to measure the court which is given to the Gentiles. In Revelation 7 we see this same thing, the 144,000 are counted (measured) but the multitude in Revelation 7:9 no man can...

Let me ask you this, why is the term great multitude used to describe the 144,00 instead of remnant?

You said the 144000 and the multitude out of every kindred, and tongue, and people and nation are the same. In Revelation 11:9 they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations don’t allow the two witnesses to be buried. Where are you on this? Is Revelation 11:9 an exception to “the...

Does this mean the 144,000 are not in agreement with the two witnesses? Or would there be another reason why they don’t allow the two witnesses to be buried? Revelation 11:9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall...

The coming or parousia in 2 Thessalonians 2:9 was an arrival just as Jesus has a coming or parousia. Don’t we have two choices on how the parousia happens? Either spiritually or physically? HELPS Word-studies 3952 parousía (from parōn, "be present, arrive to enter into a situation") –...

I don’t think anyone has the view that Satan is going to physically rule on earth, physically sitting on some throne. 2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God...

Well, I guess the question is was Nebuchadnezzar a believer or not. I have heard some people who argue he was a believer. Either way a one world government was in place at that time.

Daniel 2:37 Thou, O king, art a king of kings: for the God of heaven hath given thee a kingdom, power, and strength, and glory. 38 And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath made thee ruler over them all...

You left out 2 Thessalonians 2:9-10. Whose coming is … in them that perish. The coming happens inside of those that perish, a spiritual coming.

Hold on a minute, in Matthew 4:8-9 Satan temps Jesus with the kingdoms of the world. In Daniel 2 Nebuchadnezzar was the head of gold, Babylon was the one world government. Satan had all the kingdoms and a one world government before Jesus was on earth. How can you say Satans abilities are not...

Fair enough, maybe instead of MOB I should’ve used when the dragon gives his power seat and authority to the beast in Revelation 13:2. Ok, so you are in agreement then that Satan is bound, you just make the distinction that he is not imprisoned in the bottomless pit yet. In Revelation 20:2...

You’re using circular reasoning. The last 42 months can only start when the MOB comes and the MOB can’t come until it’s the last 42 months. At some point we all agree that the last 42 months happen. If Satan can’t currently do anything that takes place in the final 42 months then he is...

Right, at some point it will be the last 42 months, but what is currently preventing Satan from implementing the MOB and kicking off the 42 month period? Is Satan bound right now or not?

Yea, it really makes me wonder what people are thinking when they claim the Antichrist will be a one world dictator. If Satan isn’t bound and he’s in control of this world right now, deceiving the nations, then why hasn’t he started stamping people with 666 yet? I guess Satan is a benevolent...

I thought about that but I can’t come to any solid conclusion on it. I’m still thinking about the Gog/Magog event after the millennium and the dead living during Satans little season, it is interesting.

That’s a great question, how can Gog/Magog be fulfilled if it also occurs after the millennium. I think everyone has the millennium occurring after the book of Esther takes place. The physical Gog/Magog event could be a type for a spiritual Gog/Magog event. The Gog/Magog situation in Esther...