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Doesnt this sum it up in 2Thess 1? 7And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, 8In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: 9Who shall be punished with...

Was not this prophecy given “in the spirit”? Why are you looking for literal examples like stars falling, earthquakes and such? Is the dragon real? A literal key to the pit real? Locusts real? The 144k literal Jews that are literal virgins?

Ok, but if Christ said I go to prepare a place for you, he’s not preparing heaven, he’s preparing the Kingdom on earth. That specific verse doesn’t say we go to heaven, nor does it elude to that we need to leave the earth at a resurrection. Noah, Lot and Moses all remained on the earth. Even the...

Why do you think the AC is the FP? If the beast is the image of the FP, how do you rectify the idea that the beast of the sea existed in the past “was”, and the FP makes an image of that very beast. It doesn’t say he makes an image of himself. Nor does the image survive from the past to future...

Jay Ross, If Israel is the fig tree and you say it budded in 1948, who were all the other trees (nations) that also had to bud in 1948 if you take the text that way? Cause I’m not familiar with multiple nations being born that year….

As I read the back and forth banter, I can’t help but think of 2 Timothy. 7Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. For everyone that I read keeps saying “I’m right, you’re wrong”..that is not walking in Christ likeness. What happened to being humble? Or Love? How...

Im unsure why you are repeating points. I’ve already stated, the resurrection is doctrinal. But eschatological theories are not. That is the point. I’m not sure why you bring up the harpazo. When did I say it was separate? Perhaps you misread someone else’s comment.

Just have 2 questions if that is ok. 1. Why do we need to leave earth? If we are changed instantly (those alive) and the rest were already dead, what could hurt us on earth if we are immortal? Can immortal or the dead be hurt? 2. What scripture says we leave earth at the resurrection?

Please read what I said before responding critically. I said Pre-TB is not a church doctrine. The resurrection is a church doctrinal issue. Many eschatological types have the resurrection in them. That doesn’t make them doctrines. That is, specifics we must hold to coming from God without any...

Very interesting thought on the matter. I’ve seen others follow this line of reasoning too. Some in the 1700’s wrote on the same topic. I don’t agree with it, but that is ok. We learn from each other sometimes when we have open ears and open minds. Thank you for sharing with me.

Have a good day Ronald.

I wasn’t clearly shown anything I’m afraid. You are fixated on choosing personal pronouns by specific interpretations when there are interpretations that differ. But regardless of whose, scripture identifies and gives the listener the answer. There is no need to reply to me Truth7t7, You have...

Hello Cassandra. Quite a beautiful name even if it’s for an avatar. Some people think that. Others think it’s Islamic. Then again, if you live in China, some think it’s there. Some think Russia. Notice the similarities in this issue? In some degree, where you live or who your enemy is can have...

So men rise from the sea and men have multiple heads with crowns and men share characteristics of previous kingdoms; bear, lion and leopard? Sounds like you have it figured out. But if you’re wrong, than what?

I come to you to talk about these matters but your lack of love and an attitude anything but Christian gives cause for concern. You receive nothing when your heart is darkened. Nothing but a poor testimony.

There is much to discuss here. First, your pride. When you say things like: I don't make errors when I talk about Prophesies You need to humble yourself and repent. We are all human and we all make mistakes constantly in life till the day we die. Next, though I could go tidbit for tidbit over...

Apologize for the long wait to reply, I’ve been very busy today. I appreciate the acknowledgement Randy and respect that. As far as Rome is concerned, John was told there are 7 heads (of the beast). One “is”, which during John’s time was Roman. But he was also told the beast that was and is...

The text in question says we who are alive at his coming, will be saved. I don’t disagree with that. In regards to my name, your judgmental attitude assumes that because I don’t believe Pre-TB to be scriptural I’m somehow making up my own interpretation? Opinions are fine. But I am to be...

IMHO, You have made a few grievous scriptural errors. 1. The 4th beasts does not receive a mortal wound. One of the head(s) of the beast with 7 heads received the wound. Rev 13:3 How many heads does a man have? 2. The last beast of Daniel, referring to the beast that comes out of the sea, is...

Though I’m sure you’re joking, nation will never learn war with nation again. Their weapons will turn into farming instruments. War is the opposite of Christ.