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    we do not have revival because we do not see the need for it.

    You never proved me wrong, and in fact only strengthened my views on the matter, therefore you failed to prove me wrong.
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    we do not have revival because we do not see the need for it.

    There is your inability to have a rational discussion without being offended being exposed....
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    we do not have revival because we do not see the need for it.

    wrong, It is only in the presence of a Holy God that you can see clearly your own wretchedness and the wretchedness of the church so as to correct yourself and the church. Read John 15.
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    we do not have revival because we do not see the need for it.

    Notice the Question mark.... and why placed the word "ask" in Bold. If i ask you if your doctrine encourages sin does not mean i accuse you of having a doctrine that says sin is ok, rather it is asking for clarification on your doctrine in relation to sin. To internalize a question like that...
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    we do not have revival because we do not see the need for it.

    That is how "discussion" works.... You say X, I ask Y to clarify if that is what you are saying.... then you accuse me of putting words in your mouth. Quite frankly it is childish. I mean all who are in the church, myself included. Like Isaiah said: Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a...
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    we do not have revival because we do not see the need for it.

    You complain, because I say "The Church is so lost in the ways of the world" denying this is a problem. The Opposite of this is to say the church is good with God and in need of nothing which is what you seem to be advocating.
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    we do not have revival because we do not see the need for it.

    The church today, in general, preaches a message of self acceptance, and high self esteem, which are the root of the complacency in the church. Until Brokenness and Repentance are preached the edification is detrimental to Spiritual growth of the members in the church. Edification only comes...
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    we do not have revival because we do not see the need for it.

    I say it is in brokenness and repentance that the Holy Ghost can build up. Man building man up is pride and delusion. You know seeking out preachers with itching ears and smooth words.
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    we do not have revival because we do not see the need for it.

    So to you the church is rich and prosperous and in need of nothing? That is known as self deception.
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    Swollen Feet

    Prayers for you Truman, I have the same Problem caused by Kidney failure, so i can relate. After working eight hours they are like balloons. I Put my feet up when I get Home and serve the LORD to the best of my abilities. As The old saying goes, when life gives you lemons, make lemonade....
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    we do not have revival because we do not see the need for it.

    Was the idolatry and Harlotry in the temple in Jerusalem the fault of Judaism? The Church is so lost in the ways of the world that it is being watered down as the salt of the earth and the city on a hill. A weakened church emboldens the world to wickedness. So I cannot deny that there is a...
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    The Wrath of the Lamb vs. the Wrath of God

    The way I see it is that Jesus is the one seated on the throne, and that both sides of the "And" Point to different aspects that those involved fear of the Lamb. The reasoning I use is that No one has ever seen the "face of the Father". Interesting topic.
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    we do not have revival because we do not see the need for it.

    We are Complete in Him, But he has not completed His work in us. I Have used this analogy before... Just because you have all the parts of Car in one place does not mean they are properly assembled That you can drive the car. This is where the Church is, and where many in the Body of the church...
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    we do not have revival because we do not see the need for it.

    When the Apostolic church was empowered by the Holy Ghost, they were of ONE ACCORD. We must never be satisfied as a church till we are of the same One accord, and then we too will see the latter rain fall and we will be empowered as the Apostolic church was. Settling for less than that is the...
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    we do not have revival because we do not see the need for it.

    The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit. (John 3:8) On the Oceans there is a concept known as a rogue wave. This occurs when wind and wave pattern cause the waves...
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    The Wrath of the Lamb vs. the Wrath of God

    The NIV is one of the worst translations out there, this being a prime example.
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    The Wrath of the Lamb vs. the Wrath of God

    Does this not apply to the tares in the church as well?
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    The Wrath of the Lamb vs. the Wrath of God

    For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand? (KJV) I Will look into this later when I have time. Suffice it to say, is verse 16 creating a plurality referring to 1 Him who is seated on the throne and 2 the Lamb, or is it speaking of a singular Lamb who sits on the throne.
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    Carnally Minded vs. Spiritually Minded

    For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of...