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Here’s something to think about or maybe discuss in your group, the days being cut short are almost always assumed to be ending sooner than it should. This isn’t necessarily true. For example, we could say some kind of tribulation will happen at your work for five days but this plan has changed...

Ok, that’s my point, there is no true free will in a future millennium, limited will at best. Thanks for agreeing. Have you ever seen the show Carbonaro Effect or Candid Camera? People being deceived is entertaining. Do people who are on these shows have the free will to prevent the deception...

Right, but that would only be true if there wasn’t free will during the millennium. In the millennium someone could claim that He is in the desert when He isn’t if they have free will. If the only reason deception is happening today (as in claiming He is in the desert) is because Satan is...

So you’re saying nobody will be able to say the phrase “lo, here is Christ, or there” during the millennium? Won’t people be able to say “lo, here is Christ” when they talk about Him on David’s throne in Jerusalem during the millennium, or will there be no free will for people to use those words?

Luke 21:22 has the phrase “that all things written may be fulfilled”. If it means absolutely everything written in the entire Bible, including everything in the New Testament, then there’s a problem. If it means all things written about the times of the Gentiles or the Jews or something like...

In Revelation 21 the first heaven and earth were passed away, then John sees New Jerusalem coming down from heaven. If all things need to be fulfilled (meaning absolutely everything) prior to “this generation” passing away then you have heaven and earth passing away while “this generation”...

I’ve seen you bring this up on another forum, it is very interesting that the coming in 2 Thessalonians 2:8 is almost always associated with Christ’s coming but the surrounding verses indicate it’s the coming of the man of sin.

I don’t want to debate free will here but currently someone who believes in election might say something like everyone has a choice but nobody can choose life when they are dead in sin. In your millennium someone might say there is a choice but nobody can choose sin when they are alive in...

Unless you have the second coming the last day of earth, that means John 3:16 becomes false. It really should say For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that for a limited time only whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

I’m not sure what you’re saying, is it that currently people have the free will to choose Christ or not but after the second coming it switches to election? Or are you saying there is no free will at all? Or are you saying there’s some kind of hybrid model where God has to choose a person first...

What I should’ve said to make my point clearer was that Satan is accusing the brethren of their sins in Revelation 12, I didn’t mean to say that he is currently making accusations. Satan isn’t omnipresent, he is either in heaven or he’s not. Making accusations takes time so unless you think...

Yes, the “not all Israel which are of Israel” fell by the edge of the sword and were led away captive into all the nations. True Israel fled into the mountains and were not part of the non-Israel event that some call the diaspora. Jerusalem was trodden down until it was completely destroyed...

I do think the fullness of the Gentiles is the full measure that they were prophesied to perform. The times of the Gentiles ends according to Luke 21:24 in 70AD so I don’t think the fullness of the Gentiles happens outside of the times of the Gentiles. In Romans 11:25 Israel is blind in part...

Right, and if you tell them that if they did accept Jesus right now as their Messiah they will loose out on the old covenant promises, you are never going to convince them. They will weigh the option you are telling them about and reject Jesus. If someone was to explain that the old covenant...

It’s my understanding that the times of the Jews were depicted by who was king. Time was stated for example as the fifth year of king so and so. The times of the Jews ended when they went under the control of Babylon, that’s when the times of the Gentiles started. Time is then depicted by which...

I absolutely agree, none of us knows if we will be alive tomorrow. But if your view is correct then Gentiles have everything to gain by accepting Jesus today, their only alternative is to be not found in the book life and cast into the lake of fire. According too your view the Jews on the...

Well, I don’t agree with all that you’re saying, but I was initially thinking, if your view is correct, that a person who was a Jew would have to weigh out their options before accepting Jesus. To some Jews it may be better to not accept Jesus now and retain the old covenant promises, this would...

Ok, I’m not arguing here just wondering, would you say then that it’s possible for someone to be both under the new covenant and be a Jew that will receive the benefits of the old covenant? Or does a Jew forfeit the old covenant benefits if they come to faith prior to His return? You made the...

Can I ask you a question about your thinking? Are you saying you yourself are under the new covenant but someone who is born a “Jew” (whatever that means) is under the old covenant?

Yea, I agree. I think Satan was walking around in Babylon seeking whom he may devour. Revelation 18:2 says Babylon became the hold of every foul spirit which includes Satan.