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  1. PinSeeker

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Well, allow me... :) And I think at least much of what I'm going to say here you are implying in your question: Having failed to destroy Christ (Revelation 12:4-5), the Dragon tries to destroy the people of Christ. He uses his mouth, representing his deceit (Revelation 12:15, 9; 2...
  2. PinSeeker

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Going to add this about "typology." One of my favorite verses in the Bible ~ because it shows us several different things ~ is Hebrews 1:1-4, and really more specifically verses 1 and 2: "Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, but in these last days...
  3. PinSeeker

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    It just is what it is, RWB. You're right. And you can reason all you want, but for those bought into this "typology," no amount of reason is going to change their minds. You might recall with me the words of those... poets, I guess... Simon and Garfunkel, from The Boxer in 1968: "Still a man...
  4. PinSeeker

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    I would like to know when and where I did that ~ or where you think I did that. No idea what you’re talking about here. LOL! What’s not “scholarly” of me, FOTG? I mean, not to give the impression that I think of myself in any kind of conceited or puffed up way, but my goodness. I’m not...
  5. PinSeeker

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    I'm not "rejecting the Scripture(s)" in any way, David. That's a silly thing to say, quite frankly. What I was looking for ~ earnestly ~ was a personal answer to a personal question, and then maybe some discussion. That's how personal conversations work... or, at least, should work. :)...
  6. PinSeeker

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    But different people believe different things about any one certain passage of Scripture, Fullness of the Gentiles. If you don't want to have ~ or can't have ~ a direct conversation regarding any one passage of Scripture with another question, then, okay, we just won't have it. I asked you a...
  7. PinSeeker

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Well, sure, but I'm asking you what you think, Fullness of the Gentiles. Do you always carry on "conversations" like this? Everyone here thinks that about everything they say. :) I'm not saying you didn't, but still, I'm trying to have a conversation with you. My goodness... Nope. Stop...
  8. PinSeeker

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Hm, well, that's... ambiguous. :) It's not really an answer to the question I asked you. I agree that we will not be immortal until after the resurrection (if that's what you're saying). I asked you if you thought our salvation (not immortality) ~ eternal life ~ was secure in Christ when we...
  9. PinSeeker

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    FOTG, you say a lot of really good things (in my opinion, of course), and I thought we were on the same page regarding the millennium, but based on this, it seems not. It seems you too suppose God's millennium to be future only. Is that correct? Or perhaps instead of 'millennium' you mean to...
  10. PinSeeker

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Yes, the "best" in that they are God's elect. Well, separate in that these are the ones God has purposed to make holy, His remnant that He is saving unto Himself. His "wheat," from whom the "tares" are separated. Well, it's no mere thing. :) No, but like I said, you're opinions are very...
  11. PinSeeker

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    I appreciate your opinions... for entertainment value if nothing else. :) Grace and peace to you, Timtofly.
  12. PinSeeker

    Was Noah's flood global?

    Could be; there is the Mid-Oceanic Trench out there in the middle of the Atlantic... Evidence? Well... maybe. :) Grace and peace to you.
  13. PinSeeker

    Was Noah's flood global?

    We don't know how long. I get it; you're counting generations, I think. But we can't know that, really. And I would say that speculating on any of this is in any case beyond Moses's intent in writing Genesis... and even God's intent in inspiring Moses's writing. Grace and peace to you.
  14. PinSeeker

    Was Noah's flood global?

    That was my implication... and is a distinct possibility, but we cannot definitively tell from the text. Most everyone accepts that the earth had only one large land mass at least at some point in the past. Another possibility that cannot be verified. I wouldn't be on board with that, but...
  15. PinSeeker

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    No. :) Not even one. No one is removed from anything. In this post, GA, with all due respect, you're conflating at least two or three different things. Grace and peace to you.
  16. PinSeeker

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Well, I did add a couple of short clarifications of my own in there, so, to answer your question... yes. :) Not important, really; right is right. :) Meant to provide the link and forgot. Happy to do so here: Ligonier One of the main points is that Covenant theology is the very opposite of...
  17. PinSeeker

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Oh my. :) Yeah, there are all sorts of crazy beliefs out there... :) Grace and peace to you.
  18. PinSeeker

    Was Noah's flood global?

    I say that the flood was all-encompassing; I believe the Bible ~ God, through Moses in this case ~ to be crystal clear on that. Maybe a question to be pondered is, did the land of the earth look like it does today? Or, the same question asked in a different way, were the lands situated upon...
  19. PinSeeker

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Dispensationalism is a popular and widespread way of reading the Bible. It originated in the nineteenth century in the teaching of John Nelson Darby and was popularized in the United States through the Bible Conference movement. Its growth was spurred on even more through the publication of the...
  20. PinSeeker

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Well, then ~ no offense intended ~ you are stating things in... very ambiguous ways. I would just cut out the word 'physical' from your statement here... :) The "eternal age that shall come," RWB, is eternity. You seem to be saying that eternity is here, but just not physical yet. Meh. :)...