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  1. PinSeeker

    The Rapture is Post-trib

    Oh, I do agree about your lacking things, but surely not in the way that you want me to. :) Do you want to start an argument about that, now? I don't care one iota (anymore) about your opinions of me. Yes, I'm well aware of that. :) Sure, you accept your own opinions, about everything, I...
  2. PinSeeker

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    There is a lot of combativeness going on here in these conversations. We should all stay away from that, I say. We are, after all, brothers and sisters, at least supposedly... :) Grace and peace to all.
  3. PinSeeker

    The Rapture is Post-trib

    I agree about your lacking some things. :) Grace and peace to you, Timtofly.
  4. PinSeeker

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    You think so, yes. And, to an extent, you did. But you went... above and beyond. :) :) Ah, getting combative on me. That's... regrettable. Hmmm... :) In Genesis 7 and 8, Rebuilder, that Noah and his family entered the ark (7:7), the animals followed (7:8-9), and the waters came (7:10)...
  5. PinSeeker

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    I would encourage anyone to take a good concordance and do a word search on "firstfruits" and see what you come up with... With regard to our salvation and the resurrection to eternal life, Christ Himself (Who of course never was in need of salvation, but certainly accomplished it for us) is...
  6. PinSeeker

    The Rapture is Post-trib

    So much talk and so little knowledge/understanding. But, knowledge, though, is a work/gift of the Spirit, and these things are spiritually discerned... Grace and peace to you, Timtofly.
  7. PinSeeker

    The Rapture is Post-trib

    <chuckles> Satan is the deceiver... And the "them" will follow him... :) It is plain, I agree, buuuuuut... :) Grace and peace to you!
  8. PinSeeker

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    There's a partial hardening now on Israel, as we know (Romans 11). But there is no "separation" ~ there is no Jew or Greek/Gentile, but we are all one in Christ. And even in the midst of this tribulation, God is with us, Jesus as He said He would be at the end of Matthew 28, and of course the...
  9. PinSeeker

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Thank you... No, the ark is a type, or shadow of Christ ~ it is representative of Christ, Whom we, having been born again of the Holy Spirit, and thus a new creation in Christ, are now in. We are no longer in Adam but in Christ. No one was removed from the flood, but some ~ Noah and his...
  10. PinSeeker

    The Rapture is Post-trib

    Sure. Agreed. :) Grace and peace to you.
  11. PinSeeker

    The Rapture is Post-trib

    You're misunderstanding me. I surely was not trying to be cryptic at all. I'll say it this way, sort of using your own words here: What's dangerous, Rebuilder, is knowing those components and taking a story/message from that story... what one thinks is that story/message within what is...
  12. PinSeeker

    Israel is Babylon the Great!

    Well, Christ's church will ultimately include some of natural Israel, the physical, outward descendants of Abraham. In Romans 11, Paul is speaking to the Romans (obviously), who are included among the Gentiles. He calls them "wild olive shoots" who are "grafted in among the others and now...
  13. PinSeeker

    False Doctrine of the "Secret Rapture".

    "In those days," actually, from Revelation 10:7... So, very shortly after that last trump, upon the final Judgment which will follow the archangel's cry of command, the trumpet of God, Jesus's return, and the second resurrection ~ which is general to all and physical/bodily ~ all of which Paul...
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    Israel is Babylon the Great!

    There is such misunderstanding who is really of Israel, who God's Israel really is and who it is comprised of. But it's all very clear in Romans through Paul: "For no one is a Jew who is merely one outwardly, nor is circumcision outward and physical. But a Jew is one inwardly, and...
  15. PinSeeker

    The Rapture is Post-trib

    I... kind of just told you... :) An interesting word choice there ('struggle')... :) The struggle, in this conversation (that we may or may not enter into), Rebuilder, is what some folks thing Jesus "laid out" and what they think are or are not "rapture verses." If you want to engage in a...
  16. PinSeeker

    The Rapture is Post-trib

    Well, I'm glad of that... :) That's not the problem between us, Timtofly. The problem is your... well, either your stubborn refusal ~ or mere inability ~ to hear John's Revelation for what it is, to properly piece it together (so to speak), or comprehend John's visions in... not only...
  17. PinSeeker

    The Rapture is Post-trib

    I'm quite sure you don't. And still won't even after I clarify, but here you go: "...fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are..." Jesus, Who is God, is...
  18. PinSeeker

    The Rapture is Post-trib

    The fire consuming Satan and throwing him into the lake of fire and sulfur most certainly indicates his total and final defeat of Satan. I'm not assuming anything. You may do whatever you want. :) I know. I am fully aware that is your assumption. :) No I don't... :) I guess you assume...
  19. PinSeeker

    The Rapture is Post-trib

    I think that sentiment is a dangerous path to start and/or continue down. :) This is true, generally speaking, of all of Scripture. That might be interesting, but I think it can be summed up in just a few words... maybe even one. You guys were/are talking about Matthew 24: 36-44, right? And...
  20. PinSeeker

    The Rapture is Post-trib

    I know you're conversing with another poster here, Rebuilder, but just a small interjection, if I may. Lots of folks make more of ~ in different ways ~ "The Virgin parable" than it's meant to convey... :) But, that's certainly not meant to "devalue" (or make less of it somehow) that parable...