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  1. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    You are taking general statements and making them into a specific event. There are 3 resurrection events involving Christians. (1) the rapture/resurrection event (before the great tribulation) when Jesus comes in the air, (2) as a martyred great tribulation saints (after the great...
  2. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    Your post is nothing more than an emotional amil outburst, not recognizing the 1Thessalonains4:15-18 rapture/resurrection event, nor the Revelation 20:4-6 great tribulation martyrs resurrection event, nor the resurrection to take place at the GWT.
  3. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    No, Revelation 20:6 does not say they will die again. The second death is being cast into the lake of fire. They don't appear before the GWT judgment for that possibility. So the second death has no power over them. The rest of the dead though will be resurrected after the thousand years...
  4. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    Then how are those individuals, if brought back in their same mortal bodies, going to reign with Christ for one thousand years ? keras, it does not say anywhere in the bible that Christians are going to be resurrected in mortal bodies.
  5. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    The EU, the end times manifestation of the Roman Empire, will be the kingdom of the beast-king.
  6. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    keras, raised in what kind of mortal bodies ? as a little baby? a youth ? a teenager ? a 20 year old ? 30's ? 40's ? 50's ? 60's ? etc. Back to life at the same age they die at? With the same type of body ? With all the physical issues ? I don't think you have thought it...
  7. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    No, you did not explain the timing of the verses of Zechariah 14:14-19, nor what they mean. The mount of Olives, split in half in Zechariah 14:4 has not happened yet. So the verses of Zechariah 14:14-19 could not have happened yet.
  8. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    Paul did not say how many resurrection events there would be in 1Corinthinans 15:22-23. 23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. The order is.... (1) the rapture/resurrection event (before the great tribulation) when Jesus...
  9. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    You did not address Zechariah 14:16-19. You sought to divert instead.
  10. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    Jesus was the firstfruits of the resurrected and glorified among men. At the time Jesus comes for the rapture/resurrection event, the dead in Christ will be resurrected into eternal, everlasting bodies, and them in Christ who are live at the time will be translated into eternal everlasting...
  11. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    keras, you still have not answered the question. What kind of bodies do you think the Christians in 1Thessalonains4:15-18 will be resurrected in and caught up in, to ever be with the Lord - i.e. eternity ? 1Thessalonians4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with...
  12. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    In Zechariah 14 is Jesus's Second Coming. After Jesus returns, (during the millennium) representatives of all the families of the earth will come to Jerusalem to worship Jesus during the feast of tabernacles. Some of the nations will be heathen nations, and should they not send...
  13. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    The rapture/resurrection event, exclusively for Christians, in 1Thessalonians4:15-18 is separate from the GWT judgement. The GWT judgement, after the millennium is over, is for persons who did not take part in....either: 1. the rapture/resurrection event of 1Thessalonians4:15-18 - before the...
  14. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    There is no GWT judgment taking place in 1Thessalonians4:15-18.
  15. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    I am not referring to the people gathered in Matthew 24:31 by the angels that Jesus sends out. I am referring to the Christians in 1Thessalonians4:15-18. No, we are not in Jesus's presence yet. Jesus is in heaven. The rapture/resurrection event of 1Thessalonans4:15-18 has not taken place...
  16. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    keras, you did not answer the question.... What kind of bodies do you think the Christians in 1Thessalonains4:15-18 will be resurrected in and caught up in, to ever be with the Lord - i.e. eternity ? 1Thessalonians4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in...
  17. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    keras you are making a statement, but not answering the question... What kind of bodies do you think the Christians in 1Thessalonains4:15-18 will be resurrected in and caught up in, to ever be with the Lord - i.e. eternity ? 1Thessalonians4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be...
  18. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    Those who take part in the Christians only rapture/resurrection event. And those who take part in the martyred great tribulation saints resurrected at the early stages of the millennium. keras, many posters have already shown that rapture/resurrection event is before God's wrath is poured out...
  19. Douggg

    the Great Tribulation

    No, Daniel 11-36-12:13 is still unfulfilled. As are all the "time of the end" events in the book of Daniel, still unfulfilled. But the time of fulfillment is close. https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/search.php?q=time+of+the+end&bsec=&order=0&s=1
  20. Douggg

    the Great Tribulation

    Daniel 11:35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed. Daniel 11:35 is a transition verse to the time of the end. imo, in that transition time, the ones with...