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    It Must Be Absolutely Terrifying To Be A Post-Tribulation Believer

    One clarification, David. Do you hold that the millennium will begin after the events of Matthew 25:31-46? Or before, maybe? I may or may not have a follow-up question. Thank you. Grace and peace to you.
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    It Must Be Absolutely Terrifying To Be A Post-Tribulation Believer

    I pray that I will endure to the end, along with the rest of the saints. But I know ~ have absolute confidence ~ that I will, because I have the Holy Spirit, through Whom Christ is with me to the end of the age (Matthew 28:20) and through Whom I am seated with Christ in the heavenly places...
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    It Must Be Absolutely Terrifying To Be A Post-Tribulation Believer

    I agree with you, David, but I would call it a "Holy Spirit fact" that there is no support for any "rapture" of any kind in any relation to Christ's return... and only ~ <chuckle> "only," as if it is some trivial thing ~ that Christ's return will be a very rapturous event. Grace and peace to you.
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    The Orthodox Preterist versus the Heretical Dispensationalist

    No matter; the true Jew of God is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit (Romans 2:29)... Gentiles are grafted in (Romans 11), which is to say that though they are "wild olive shoots," they are no longer counted as such, but one with, even as the natural and not...
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    It Must Be Absolutely Terrifying To Be A Post-Tribulation Believer

    Agreed. It may be... but that doesn't make it correct. God never promises to remove His people from any sort of tribulation, but to be with them and walk with them and protect them through it, in the midst of it. He doesn't remove us from anything, but rather delivers us. Among many others...
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    The Orthodox Preterist versus the Heretical Dispensationalist

    No, I do not believe Hebrews 6:6 is not referring to true repentance, Spiritual Israelite. Okay, well I'm not sure why, but you can dispel that thought straight away. I very pointedly said, Spiritual Israelite, that I knew you did not intend to take sin lightly ~ "I know you don't mean to be...
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    The Orthodox Preterist versus the Heretical Dispensationalist

    Yes, they do. :) We disagree. I agree with both of these statements, but not in the way you see that, obviously. I guess to this I would say that, well, earth and paradise will be one. They will be separate no more. We disagree. Sure, but the implication of anything declared can be very...
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    The Orthodox Preterist versus the Heretical Dispensationalist

    No, of course not. I have never said nor implied that it did, and am not sure why you would think it necessary to ask me this. Disagree. Abraham's end of the covenant was to be perfectly faithful and obedient. As is the case with all these covenants (Adamic, Noahic, Abrahamic, Mosaic...
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    The Orthodox Preterist versus the Heretical Dispensationalist

    In your opinion, yes, I get that, loud and clear. Others will hold the same opinion. I disagree. Maybe "self-deception" is not the right term to use there in all cases. Upon self-reflection, people change their minds, right? So, in that case, they come to realize somehow and at some point...
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    The Orthodox Preterist versus the Heretical Dispensationalist

    Me, too. :) I agree. But I'm not contradicting (or retracting) anything I've said. It is very possible, Covenantee, for someone to think that of themselves in error, even believing it to be a matter of the heart. Again, as Jeremiah says, "The heart is deceitful above all things; who can...
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    The Orthodox Preterist versus the Heretical Dispensationalist

    LOL! Well, he did say, "nor anything else in all creation," did he not? And I'm... assuming you're somewhere in creation... :) I mean... I am... :) That's exactly the problem, SI, that you're equating 'saved' and 'repented.' I understand; you will not allow for someone repenting without...
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    The Orthodox Preterist versus the Heretical Dispensationalist

    He was. We disagree. Right, but true repentance is of the Spirit, Spiritual Israelite. People can say anything, and even repent of their sins, and be sincere in doing that. But what we pray for, even continually, is a deep and lasting repentance granted us by the Holy Spirit's work in us...
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    The Orthodox Preterist versus the Heretical Dispensationalist

    Both, actually. The operative word, I guess, would be 'accepted.' A person can accept anything heard or experienced, although for sure, he/she is much more likely to accept what he/she has experienced. But with regard to salvific belief, that can only follow the regenerate heart, which is the...
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    The Orthodox Preterist versus the Heretical Dispensationalist

    Actually, I do agree with what you say here, SI. But, as you know ~ or should ~ the heart is deceitful above all things (Jeremiah 17:9). So many are so hung up on "free will." No one disagrees that our wills are our own and thus free. But the matter, as far as God's salvation goes, is the...
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    The Orthodox Preterist versus the Heretical Dispensationalist

    Right, and again, these people have heard the truth explained and thus have also learned of God's Word, and experienced the benefits therein and of the presence of the Spirit and His work around them. Certainly, one can fall away from that, and of his/her own free will and accord. God's...
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    The Orthodox Preterist versus the Heretical Dispensationalist

    God is the giver of faith, which we know is His assurance of things hoped for, the conviction by the Holy Spirit of things not seen (Hebrews 11:1). By grace we have been saved through faith, and this is not our own doing, it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast...
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    The Orthodox Preterist versus the Heretical Dispensationalist

    Man, I sure hope so. Like, buried as deep underground as you can possibly get it; because that's where it should go... :) Well I agree, but something tells me you're not going to stop... :) Just pokin' a little fun at you, Eternally Grateful. :) Grace and peace to you.
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    The Orthodox Preterist versus the Heretical Dispensationalist

    Yeah, I'm gonna strongly disagree with you on this, too, Covenantee. Eternally Grateful asked me the same question back on page 19, and you can read my answer in post 374 if you haven't already. In a nutshell, it is impossible to credibly refute Paul in Romans 8:35-39 or Ephesians 1:5-14 or...
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    The Orthodox Preterist versus the Heretical Dispensationalist

    Yes. In the lesser, immediate sense, yes, but in the greater, eternal sense, well, yes, also. That's the relationship between the New Testament and the Old, in a nutshell. The New Testament is a continuation of the story begun in Genesis 1 (so the one page you can rip out of your Bible is...
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    The Orthodox Preterist versus the Heretical Dispensationalist

    LOL! Right back atcha... :) Yeah, me, too.. :) Isaac, Jacob, and Jacob's twelve sons were not yet born, so no, the covenant itself was just with Abram. He was the federal representative of all of his progeny, both in the immediate sense and the ultimate sense, which, in both cases is all...