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"National Israel" was not in existence yet, Eternally Grateful. He made a covenant with Abram, and promised to make him a nation. "National Israel" was not a party to the covenant. Wow. Well, that's yours and Coventantee's argument. But you know... :) God did promise Abram a son (lesser)...

Paul did say (yet again) that not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel, and he even used Jacob and Esau - twin brothers of Israel himself, to demonstrate this and God's purpose of election. So, irrefutably, not all of Paul's fellow countrymen are among God's people; not all his...

Agreed. Well, you won't. Or any the others that it is very much like in a general way. Or Who they all come into full focus in, I guess. Too bad, but okay. All covenants, regardless whether they are eternal or not, are two sided, in that there are obligations agreed to and consequences for...

Very well, but in a covenant, both sides have requirements placed upon them. Abraham's was understood ~ obedience ~ as is the case in all the lesser covenants, from Adam's, through Moses's, and on through David's. Grace and peace to you. Right, in order, 1.) the covenant of life, with Adam...

Do you think Abraham (actually then only Abram) had no responsibility, Eternally Grateful? As I said, the call on the party opposite God in any of the divine covenants was obedience, to be perfect as He is perfect, to be holy as He is holy. Well, two things to this: 1.) A covenant, by...

And they did. And God promised that He would bear the consequences for failure on either His or Abraham's part. The human part in any and every divine covenant is obedience. That's what Abraham agreed to. Well, right, between two parties. A covenant, EG, by definition, is not unilateral...

Well, earthly physical Israel and God's eternal Israel are two different groups of folks... not that they are mutually exclusive, as God's eternal Israel will contain a number of those who were part of earthly, physical Israel. This Venn diagram should suffice: The inner circle is not to...

Well, previous to that, to be fair, you did say to Spiritual Israelite, "...if you were a true covenant person who understand them, you would understand this..." So what you say here seems a bit hypocritical. Well, no, actually; I purposefully bypassed your "point," and communicated the true...

Ahhhh, yes, it was. I agree with the "I will" part... But yes, God did put Abraham in a deep sleep, and what He then did was, in walking alone between the animal halves, promised to fulfill His end of the covenant as well as Abraham's, and to bear the consequences ~ to be like the animals and...

Very well. Absolutely not. What is "replaced," Eternally Grateful? Nothing. Absolutely nothing is replaced. I agreed, that in and of itself, it did not and does not. But it is one of the outward results of God's deliverance. Well, no, I agree, that's not true. I'm not sure how you even...

Continued from above: By showing it's short-sightedness? :) That would be disproving... :) You either missed my question here, or are avoiding it. What does it mean, Eternally Grateful, for something to be grafted in to something else? Ah, well, I agree, but again ~ yet again ~ we go back...

Certainly. Yes, I well understand. :) I well understand what you... understand... think... you have shown. :) No, but I well understand that you think you do... :) But you don't see the greater fulfillment of the Abrahamic covenant. Or the Adamic, or the Noahic, or the Mosaic, or the...

No offense intended, EG, but this is ridiculous, a totally false accusation. The disagreement is not at all whether or not God will keep His promises, or even that He will keep His promises to Israel. Really, as it pertains to the dispensational view of things and who made up Israel before the...

Uh, I always did, EG, but only clarified that it was never so limited as you think it was/is. As I said, it had an immediate relevance and fulfillment, and a ultimate and eternal relevance and fulfillment. You agree with that, I think, at least in principle, but we disagree with how that will...

Well, I don't disagree, but I don't agree either. Or, better put, I both agree in one sense and disagree in another. Certainly. Absolutely... Ah, Romans 11:28, a very misunderstood (by many) verse... Paul is saying that as a corporate body, ethnic Israel is presently opposed to the Lord...

It's really not a different promise, Eternally Grateful, but rather the lesser, immediate manifestation of the greater, with the lesser pointing to the greater. You get that, no? Surely you do. Not immediately, no. I will agree with you insofar as that. Right, not immediately, no. Okay...

Gentile believers are heirs according to the promise... "...if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring, heirs according to promise" (Galatians 3:29). Not immediately, no. I have never asserted otherwise. Well, but the law does serve a purpose for us; it is a mirror that pushes us...

I'm a bit puzzled as to why you would ask this question about Matthew 25 in response to my quoting Paul in Romans 2:28-29... but no matter... We could use this, or the parable of the ten virgins above, but it's even more clear in Jesus's graphic description of the final Judgment in Matthew...

Opinions are like noses... Ohhhh, yes they are.... This should be clearly seen in Hebrews 1:1-2, that "Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through...

Ohhh, well, that's... okay. :) It may be very close, yes. The tribulation has been very difficult, no? :) Sure! Well, it's... being fulfilled, as we speak. This has been the case for about 2000 years... Well, the return of the King, yes. But in the fullness of God's time, it will...