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Most have heard little or nothing. Unfortunately. If one is to see and hear what the Spirit says, the first thing to understand is while the kingdoms of this world do come to be the kingdoms of Christ, His kingdom is not of this world. Therefore, if one is to rightly divided the word of truth...

Thanks for that and being transparent. If I may suggest: Yes, it can be said that many sort of wander in the desert thinking whatever comes to mind and weighing in on all matters of God out of their own experiences and opinions, but the scriptures also paint a different way. Which is that we...

I suppose that kinda works if you consider that Christ specifically was first born into this world of the flesh and of a woman... So then the Last Eve as the body of Christ being flesh, and the Last Eve born [again] of the spirit of God as the Bride of Christ being spirit. :vgood:

You don't have to take my word for it. You can read it for yourself. The thief on the cross was One with Christ in God that very day. But it would also seem that you do not actually know how this works. You need only believe.

I was referring to your quoting the passage above as a reason seemingly to justify having no expectation of our ways being more than they were in Isaiah's time during these end times, when in reality being One with Christ began 2,000 years ago.

I suppose the question of consideration, is if "The first man Adam became a living being.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit" 1 Corinthians 15:45-- What then would the Bride of each be by their lineages, respectively? I would suggest that this is a matter of that which is born of the...

That indeed was a good first word on the matter. However, with the coming of Christ, us becoming His body beginning 2,000 years ago, and His declaring the end as being "you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect."...I wouldn't suggest such a discount.

DISCLAIMER: I consider this aspect of God to be relative to the OP, as it addresses the fulness of God (the Author of the Bible). Certainly there is nothing wrong with considering or discussing any of the various aspects of God in all His fulness, and yet the context for one aspect may not be...

I might add...that it is that very "knowing the beginning from the end" perspective that is the actual reality according to the way of God whom is perfect, and the end of which we are to arrive at in Oneness with Him in Christ. So...while, yes, He has planned for us to walk it out on this...

If we are to decrease and Jesus increase, it means changing our perspective from a worldly timeline perspective and rationale for everything to the timeless perspective of God where all things are the same yesterday, today, and forever (as they "were" "before the foundation of the world"). If...

The biblical narrative certainly does elaborate all things as if they were coming to fruition on this worldly timeline--but that is just the revelation of all that is written--written before the world began. These events were written and did occur "before the foundation of the world" and are now...

No. Again--your whole narrative is out of context. Your statements and understanding are all worldly based--not of God, but of this world, of which His kingdom is not. There is no "was" except what was "before the foundation of the world." Time is an illusion that was "created"--"before the...

No. There is no "Jehovah...will" in "I AM." Your whole line of conjecture is out of context.

It doesn't matter. The problem is not that it is a misinterpretation of the definition of a word ("katabole") in the passage "before "the foundation" of the world", but rather that the entire matter is an event of God and thus the same yesterday, today, and forever, and not actually an event of...

I don't dabble in opinion. The rule of tongues (how language is made clear) is one speaks and another interprets. I was simply explaining why this topic seems to come by three steps. However, I don't consider that to actually be the question, but rather, Does the Holy Spirit come to a person...

They did not need 3 times (of recieving the Holy Spirit), but the world did. As He said, "Behold, I cast out demons and perform miracles today and tomorrow, and the third day I am perfected." Those three times were enactments confirming what is written about all that was before the foundation...

Where (in the Bible)?

I gave no contradiction.

I don't know who LaHaye is, and what is actually obvious, is that you say (and judge) a lot of things you know little or nothing about.

What I have been telling you is from God not men. No contest. It is not scripture that interprets scripture, but the Spirit.