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The wrath refers to the tribulation or last several years I would think.

The dead in Christ arise first, and then we that are alive. All in a twinkling of an eye 1 Cor 15: 44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. 45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last...

So what are you doing? Since we are not here for the wrath of God, and the last years are the wrath of God, that means before.

OK What rapture verse (or verse you confused with a rapture verse) are you talking about? Your dreams force you to fantasize that other people who are not confused must be 'wiggling' Face it

First the Rapture. Yes. Then the return of Jesus (with us) To earth. I am not sure where you got a third coming?

How about to get His people, alive or dead out of here before that time when He wraps things up on earth? How about a rescue? How about a marriage supper?

No we cannot leave it at you saying most believers will not be resurrected. Of course you could provide no bible support.

Right, the second coming will be like that. Do not try to take away from the words elsewhere that tell us of being gathered in the air with Him. Not should you dare trying to add to the bible by suggesting that only the return to earth of Jesus exists and that the gathering of the dead and...

Regardless of whether basic and easy apply in your mind to the concept of God dumping most believers an having them miss the resurrection, the idea is still the vile little dream that it is.

The concept was the topic. Go ahead, make my day

Not having Jesus be a schizophrenic who contradicts Himself is not going against the bible in any way. Lazy? Or pretending? I do not usually profit from fantasy posts. Seems about right so far False. Your comment was uninformed and you avoid bible passages like some bugs avoid light. You see...

What 'escape verses'? As for the foolish women that could not come with the wise to the feast, the only way they could have been worthy is by the blood of Jesus. Try not to post as if you have a point when you do not and can't even be clear about it.

One coming to the earth, seen by all. One in the air. No, the second coming of Jesus, the return to earth is not what most think of as the Rapture. There is not, at the return of Christ a gathering in the air and the dead in Christ were already raised at the Rapture. So why call it the rapture...

Nonsense, of course I know rewards are based on works. If you stopped casting firebrands long enough and take a breath, you might realize that the resurrection and salvation are not the rewards given at that seat! We get Raptured to get there first of all! How dare you accuse others of a weak...

I never said that. God chastens every some He receives. Not just the goodie two shoe types. Where I do not allow you to divide His children is when you damn most of them to the wrath of God and to miss the resurrection due to some supposed sin. Jesus died to save us all who come to Him. He...

You brought up Ruth. You forgot to connect the dots as to how that supposedly supports your theory. So the question arises what was it you think it did support exactly? You apparently are saying that in the churches in Rev 3 there are 2 classes of believers if I read you right. I see it as an...

If you are still talking about the ten virgins, how is it that believers are called 'foolish'? Look at another parable to see what a foolish person is! The man that was foolish did not build his house on the rock. In the case of the foolish women who brought no oil, the same thing applies, they...

Sorry if it rocks your boat mentally or whatever. You need more than attitude to make a case.

The foolish brought no oil. So explain how you have some insight as to that that actually did bring oil in their lamps?