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Yes I know, but that is not after or when Jesus returns. He destroys all enemies. No one will be taking hostages!

Actually have come means now have come. That does not mean some people have been saved all of a sudden. It means His kingdom has now come. The authority of Christ has come to the world now at last.

The Lord gathers all His sheep, including the saved Jews at the end time. So of course He restores and gathers them as well. No exclusive, sorry. OK That is in the end sometime. However, no one will be 'going forth into captivity' There is no more time for that. Jesus takes care of business...

Revelation 12:10 And I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ have come, for the accuser of our brothers has been thrown down, who accuses them day and night before our God. No, believers in Christ. Only...

I tend to agree Never saw that verse? Which one says that? I may need to revisit my theory Where?

Probably even more like before the flood when He returns the second time to earth. It gets worse and worse. In other words the world is very very evil when He returns. NOT that 'He is returning before the trouble'! All are supposed to be killed by the evil ruler. Good luck with that pal. Who...

Revelation 12:10 And I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ have come, for the accuser of our brothers has been thrown down, who accuses them day and night before our God. Revelation 12:11 And they...

It says we will rise in the air to be with Him, and Jesus said that we would be where He is, and obviously that is in heaven. No possible debate Guess where Jesus is? Hebrews 12:6 For the Lord disciplines the one he loves, and chastises every son whom he receives." Hebrews 12:7 It is for...

Your lack of clarity is the only problem. You cited two churches and talked about the men as if they were one and the same. Be honest

No it is God gathering His people. The little remnant that gets saved of Israel in the end is just a portion of His people. Israel is included in the events of the end, but does not have an exclusive on them, sorry. They mostly get judged as usual. Only AFTER they get saved in the end. After...

We will be where He is. If you claim He is on earth again already you have a problem Says you. But He is in the air and so are we then. The city He prepared for us, in not on earth now. Really Yes, it says we are with Him when we die. No possibility. You are way over at the end of the 1000...

The time of wrath is well marked in the bible as is the last years. We don't really need you to see it. That is when He returns to earth after the tribulation That is not the Rapture. Jesus has come back to earth by then. GONG! The bible does say we go to be with Him when we die. It also...

What has that got to do with people taken and left at the rapture?? Of course the mark is something that shows people have rejected Jesus. That is supposed to relate to what here? Chapter and verse!? Mat 24 you thought was pre tribulation? Why would you say that?

Verse? If they were saved and this was the time of the rapture, they would miss out Try to be clear. The virgin parable seems to be at the Rapture. Not sure waht point you are trying to make with Mat 24

Never met a man who was a church actually. Never met a man who was a bank either.

News to me, that the other poster was advocating a pre wrath rapture. Verse? Yes, the saints of the tribulation left alive will be gathered at the end of the tribulation when Jesus comes back to earth. The believers who were raptured years before, of course, will be returning with Jesus.

Perhaps you are talking about the end of the tribulation when Jesus returns? That depends what "it" is. Verse? Why not? Says who? Maybe you do that No, they had no oil why would we think they were saved? Says who?

That makes no sense. The other parts of the men? What other parts do men have? Perhaps you mean in the description of the men as olive trees and candlesticks. That reminds us of Zech Zechariah 4:3, Zechariah 4:11, Zechariah 4:14 We do know they are two men. There is no mention of church at all...

Except the two people (witnesses) are not churches they are men. 2 men. So forget telling anyone they are wrong.

? You thought those seven churches were here at the end of the great tribulation? It says to the churches which ARE in....not 'will be one day far in the future' The seven here are seven churches. It is interesting how the two witnesses are also called candlesticks. A candle brings light, in...