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I think that's a pretty good big picture. That's the way I see it anyway. But I also know there are sects within sects within sects...!

I don't blame you for not taking my word on all of that. But it wouldn't be very hard for you to verify if you want. All of it's well accepted among church history scholars. It's pretty much all over the internet. But, if you have evidence that any of it is wrong, I'd be glad to look it over...

No problem. I understand. Thanks.

So you spew such vitriol at me and I'm supposed to read the rest of your post? I don't think so!

Col 1:26, [Even] the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints: "Now" was not when Jesus spoke at the last supper. "Now" came several years later. Eph 3:3, How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in...

I would have to agree. It is a bunch of baloney to suggest I thought there was two covenants. Such an idea could only have come from inferring something that really wasn't there. Kind of like inferring there is such a thing as a spiritual Israel when there is no such thing in the actual...

There was no covenant made at Calvary. Calvary was the beginning of the fulfillment of the covenant that was made several hundred years before, the New Covenant which God made with Israel in Jeremiah.

Could you be more specific as to which part is not true? Haven't studied them at all. This is the first time I heard about it. I'll check it out though This is something like the 50th post I've made backing up my claims. How much more should I do? Have you seen me quote from any website at...

There aren't two new covenants. That's my point. But it seems you may be saying there are two new covenants, one made to Israel in Jeremiah and some other new covenant Jesus was making at the last supper that now was being made with the church. So one to Israel (clearly declared in Jeremiah)...

Got it! I misunderstood you at first. Thanks for the clarification. I like the succinctness of how you describe allegory.

Yes, but which New Covenant? The one in Jeremiah 31:31 that was promised to Israel and which they would have read and anticipated, or one that was supposedly promised to a future church about which they would have had absolutely no knowledge?

Wait a second there! It's not your decision. Covenantee said it was mine to make and I deferred to him. :)

I'll defer and let you make the decision. hlo

Romans 9 and Romans 11 have different contexts. And Romans 11 has different contexts within itself. Rom 11:7, What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded Here we see two different people: the election, the...

I could misunderstand your post, but I as far as I can tell, I think it is fairly premillenial. Of course there is always the problem of exactly what the terms "amillenial" and "premillenial" actually mean. It seems as though there is a lot of variations of each in the minds of those who hold...

First of all, I will speak to what I think you are saying. I want to acknowledge that I may misunderstand some of what you said. If so, let me know. If that is all true about the church being spiritual Israel, then God made it nigh to impossible for 99% of Christians to see that the church is...

Try to image you were sitting at the table with Jesus when he uttered those words. Furthermore, try to imagine you were intimately familiar with Jeremiah (any good Jew would know Jeremiah). When Jesus mentioned a "new covenant", where do think your mind may have gone? Maybe Jeremiah 31? After...

Let's take a look at the verse: Rom 11:26, And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: Does it say Israel will be saved through Faith in Christ Alone? Not the way I read it. To me it says, "There...

Well, I think the church is devil Israel. It doesn't matter that it's not in the text. That's just what I think it means.

Good question. Obviously hating God is a sin. Jer 31:34, And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and...