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"Origen believes that Platonism contains truths present in the biblical account about reality. His purpose was to recover Plato for Platonism, and then Platonism for Christianity." The Greek Philosophy, Knowledge and Faith "The mix of Jewish theology and Greek philosophy led to a syncretic mix...

Thanks to some of the information you supplied I did edit the OP to more accord with history. I included Barnabas, and the other ECFs you mentioned in the post. The history in that post is still quick and dirty, but maybe now a little less quick and dirty.

Sounds reasonable! I think the scriptures say that. Assuming we take that part literally. :csm

That is very true. I said somewhere in this thread that all of us are going to find out where we held doctrinal error in this life. After all, we see through a dark glass. Paul never held back when he sought to correct wrong doctrine. In fact throughout the scriptures there was always a man who...

I don't know about leading to eternal death, but it's certainly not going to win any points with God at the Bema. BTW, you must be proud of your grandchildren. Nice looking group!

Read the OP. Thanks to WPM's post, though not a real challenge to my basic thesis, I clarified it nonetheless. And remember, I did say in the OP that I gave a quick and dirty overview. In any case, does it really matter who began using allegory in order to harmonize Plato with Moses?

Paul said that there were some in the church who were claiming that the resurrection is past, overthrowing the faith of some believers. That may well have been at least the seed of replacement doctrine. I also understand that some leaders in the early church were infatuated with Greek...

I edited my reply. Check it out. BTW, I have no personal issue with you either. Even then, being on the other side of fence, I think much of what you've said is not according to the truth. But I am confused about something you said. On the one hand you say you respect one's right to a...

Technically, that's right! More likely the Greek though.

Like I had any to begin with in your eyes? However, I have to offer you my gratitude for pointing out I need to be more careful about what I say in the future. Maybe quick and dirty is not the way to go. I'll keep that in mind Thanks! Still all things considered, the main point of my OP was...

Assuming the "it" is replacement theology, I got the following from Wiki: "Supersessionism, also called replacement theology,[1] is the Christian doctrine that the Christian Church has superseded the Jewish people, assuming their role as God's covenanted people,[2] thus asserting that the New...

OK. BTW, coventee pointed out that I was mis-peslling Origen's name. It's not Origin.

That's some pretty creative allegory that changes the plain sense so as to fit with his idea.

Hermes is not my source for truth. Hermes says...vs Yahweh says... I choose the later. BTW, I trust you noticed 1) I said Origen was one of the first. I qualified there were others, but it was Origen that made it popular. 2) I said my OP was quick and dirty. There are many other, such as those...

Tertullian is not my source for truth either.

Good stuff, but Barnabas is not my source for truth.

Yes. Thanks. I guess I was spelling by sound. :) Right again. Same idea though. Well, there are many variations of replacement theology, but I think a fairly common tenant is that the the church is the spiritual Israel and inheritors of the kingdom which is presently in heaven instead of on...

I kind of thought you might be kidding around. :)

Yes. Sometimes it can make a point. Now there's a great example of passive aggressive. And, although I disagree with it, you did make your point.

Very well put. I'll think about what you said about Luke 13 and Hosea 6. Off the top of my head it sounds good. I also did a quick glance at your website. I read the articles on God's Plan for Mankind. Good stuff brother!