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God is the same always. So when Jesus notice that people were under the impression that because the world seems to present gaps of time when He is not the same, He simply corrected them. All of which is because by the miracles of God it would appear that the world is moving as if on a timeline...

Perhaps you could elaborate. It sounds like you are suggesting that God did not lower Himself in part to become Christ "the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men" (Philippians 2:7). That in the end God is not "all in all" (1 Corinthians 15:28) as the Father and the Son were...

When Jesus lamented over Israel and Jerusalem who had before killed the prophets sent to them, and were also rejecting and would crucify their promised Messiah, He quoted with much regret and as if it were even a threat, a verse from Psalm 118, a prophetic psalm of David, saying: “O Jerusalem...

Good point. Yes, there is more to it, many details. But the main point is that having been God before and also again, He is God, and now brings many sons also.

To the credit of the early church fathers, even the pagans now celebrate Christ. Even without knowing they call it Christ-mas, meaning Christ-sent.

The mystery or confusion and the error lies in the reality that what is born of God is indeed God, for He gave of Himself and then returned to Him. Even so, this same Jesus, unlike ourselves, was of the same glory and One even before the world was.

Hmmm, "conforming church" must be a term of its own meaning and not just defined by the definition of the words. I don't recognize it. Anyway, Satan is even now released since God poured out His spirit upon all flesh beginning at Pentecost, meaning upon both the good and the evil. This is that...

Robert, Wow, this is moving fast! I wanted to comment before but am just getting back to it. I am not sure I understand all of the JW beliefs or doctrine...but then again, there are many denominations of this who consider themselves to be Christian that are in error. That is not the criteria...

I am not sure of all that you mean to include in that statement...but our current status is either dead in sin or "alive and remaining" (having been born again of the spirit of God) until the end--which is not the End whom is Christ, but the end of this world.

No, but it is He who bore the burden of all. We only share in His suffering. All on Him is greater than any other tribulation. All is all.

Yes, if we reckon with all that is written, it all can be clear, and it is rather as Paul elaborated after Jesus' own explanation about His return and each getting a knock at the door, Paul saying, "but each one in his own order."

You say "certainly didn't take happen." But it is written: After this, Jesus, knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the Scripture might be fulfilled, said, “I thirst!” 29 Now a vessel full of sour wine was sitting there; and they filled a sponge with sour wine, put it on hyssop...

Yes, back then "—things which must shortly take place."

Yes...but then the question needs to be asked: What greater tribulation could come at any time other than "all" tribulation, that tribulation that was put upon Christ?

It is just as I have been saying: "in his time."

I don't have men. :rolleyes:

Regardless, the point is...Jesus did NOT say "I am delaying my coming"...but many have said He is. Such is the parable of the evil servant. Matthew 24:36-48

In order to navigate this issue of Water Baptism, one must first understand that since the beginning the "waters below" were separated from the "waters above." Jesus clarified the difference speaking to the woman at the well...and the waters are not the same: Therefore, when the Lord knew that...

That passage does not speak of a "worldly" gathering again after the times of the gentiles. But Jesus did clarify the issue that you have stumbled on. Referring rather to the resurrection, and not referring to the world, He said, "So the last will be first, and the first last." Matthew 20:16...

Back to the Original Post question: "That age" is perhaps the wrong wording. Speaking to people living in that generation which He referred to as "this generation", Jesus said: "I say to [you], hereafter you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Power, and coming on the...