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  1. BobRyan

    Once Saved....always Saved - Results of Questionnaire.

    What about those who believe in "sola scriptura testing" of all doctrine and practice - and so reject OSAS because it does not survive the test of scripture - in places such as this? Matthew 18 - forgiveness revoked. Ezek 18 - forgiveness revoked. Romans 11 "you stand only by your faith... you...
  2. BobRyan

    Eternal Security

    Conviction of sin is supernatural -- not "natural" to the sinful nature. John 16 - the Holy Spirit supernaturally "CONVICTS the WORLD of sin and righteousness and judgment" -- Turns out, God the Holy Spirit is very good at what He does. So it is true that of itself - the sinful nature feels no...
  3. BobRyan

    Eternal Security

    No he didn't -- we still have a sinful nature even after the cross. The Gospel provides for forgiveness of sins, adoption and the New Nature - but we still have the old one as well which is why Paul describes it as a struggle a battle - in Romans 7 and 1 Cor 9. "I buffet my body and make it my...
  4. BobRyan

    Eternal Security

    We have two natures once we are born again. The "new creation" - the heart to know God.. where the LAW of God is written on heart and mind under the New Covenant.... and we also have the old sinful nature. And those two natures are at war with each other as Paul points out in Romans 7. Yes -...
  5. BobRyan

    Eternal Security

    And in Jeremiah 18 God says His promises are conditional. In Ezekiel 18 we are told that when the righteous turns - to rebellion - they will be lost. In Matthew 18 we have the example of "forgiveness revoked" - full and complete forgiveness -- later revoked. In Romans 11 we have the warning...
  6. BobRyan

    Eternal Security

    Amen.
  7. BobRyan

    Eternal Security

    We all still have sinful natures.
  8. BobRyan

    Eternal Security

    Man has a "sinful nature" but sin is "transgression of the LAW" according to the actual Bible - see 1 John 3:4 The lost have no power against sin they "do not submit to the LAW of God neither indeed CAN they" Romans 8:4-10 ...it boils down to independence from the Lord. Indeed. Before the...
  9. BobRyan

    Eternal Security

    Agreed. The incarnation did not exist before the birth of Christ - so then God the Son existed but the human nature of the Son was not yet created until He was incarnate. 1 Cor 10:4 says "That Rock was Christ" but not claiming he was incarnate in the OT. My point is that the name "YHWH" appears...
  10. BobRyan

    Eternal Security

    Man has a "sinful nature" but sin is "transgression of the LAW" according to the actual Bible - see 1 John 3:4 The lost have no power against sin they "do not submit to the LAW of God neither indeed CAN they" Romans 8:4-10 ...it boils down to independence from the Lord. Indeed. Before the...
  11. BobRyan

    Eternal Security

    In Hebrews 8:6-12 the Bible says it is Jesus speaking at Sinai and the OT says the one speaking at Sinai is "LORD" - YHWH One God in three persons - yet Jesus is the one speaking in the OT as YHWH. 1 Cor 10 "4 and all drank the same spiritual drink, for they were drinking from a Spiritual Rock...
  12. BobRyan

    Eternal Security

    "cursed is very one who does not obey" is the Old Covenant according to Galatians 3. Genesis 2 "for the in day you eat - you shall surely die". Adam was in "purest form" of the Old Covenant agreement. "Obey and live" ... this is irrefutable. Bible says this -- See Romans 4:15 - "where there...
  13. BobRyan

    Eternal Security

    Indeed he was "cursed is very one who does not obey" is the Old Covenant according to Galatians 3. Genesis 2 "for the in day you eat - you shall surely die". Adam was in "purest form" of the Old Covenant agreement. "Obey and live" ... this is irrefutable. So also are you until you accept the...
  14. BobRyan

    Eternal Security

    death spread to all men, because all sinned "SIN IS transgression of the Law" No text says " Adam did not sin". "death spread to all men, because all sinned" -- Romans 5:12 No one lived before Adam so as to sin before Adam and to "impute sin" to Adam as his parent. Adam was created under the...
  15. BobRyan

    Eternal Security

    No one needs a savior if they have not transgressed the law - but if they have transgressed the law - guilty of sin -- they need a Savior. IF they have not sinned they cannot be charged as sinners. There is no sin where there is no Law so then if it is said that Adam sinned - then by definition...
  16. BobRyan

    Eternal Security

    See Romans 4:15 - "where there is no Law there is no SIN" Romans 5:13 See Romans 5:12 - there WAS SIN starting with Adam. 12 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world See 1 Tim 2:14 - SIN starting with Eve See Genesis 4 - SIN even at the time of Cain see 1 John 3:4 - SIN IS...
  17. BobRyan

    Eternal Security

    God said -- Genesis 26:3...and I will establish the oath which I swore to your father Abraham. 4 I will multiply your descendants as the stars of heaven, and will give your descendants all these lands; and by your descendants all the nations of the earth shall be blessed; 5 because Abraham...
  18. BobRyan

    Eternal Security

    God said -- Genesis 26:3...and I will establish the oath which I swore to your father Abraham. 4 I will multiply your descendants as the stars of heaven, and will give your descendants all these lands; and by your descendants all the nations of the earth shall be blessed; 5 because Abraham...
  19. BobRyan

    Eternal Security

    Enoch goes to heaven without dying. Noah is called "righteous" by God and Hebrews 11 has Noah living "righteousness by faith" -- "became an heir of the righteousness which is according to faith." Rom 5 12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death...
  20. BobRyan

    Eternal Security

    God said -- Genesis 26:3...and I will establish the oath which I swore to your father Abraham. 4 I will multiply your descendants as the stars of heaven, and will give your descendants all these lands; and by your descendants all the nations of the earth shall be blessed; 5 because Abraham...