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Both are true? I think Jesus said the devil was a liar from the beginning. I'm don't think anybody can actually see a soul. Given that a soul can't literally be seen, I'd say Rev 6:9 is a figure of speech. That section begins in Revelation 4 and it begins with the statement that a door in...

Gen 2:16-17, 16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: 17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. Gen 3:4, And the serpent said unto...

I'm not sure you understand what I was saying. Yes, the second coming is a series of events that occur over a period of time. I see it beginning with Jesus gathering Christians, both dead and alive, with him in the clouds. That marks the beginning of the 7 year tribulation. Since we will be with...

Adam and Eve were created perfect. God said they'd die if they disobeyed. The devil said they wouldn't really die. I think that's a good starting point for understanding death. Regarding the meaning of being asleep, 1 Thess 5:5-7, 5 for you are all sons of light, and sons of the day. We are...

I see what you are saying, although I don't see it that way. "Them" in verse 17 is a pronoun. A pronoun refers to its nearest antecedent which in this case is the risen dead in Christ from verse 16. It works that way in Greek and English. When seen this way there is no contradiction with the...

True. But how about the very next verse? 1Thess 4:17, Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. While we will be with Jesus in the clouds. Exactly what that mean, I don't know...

Not saying you are wrong, but where did you get that idea? Here's a couple of verses that seem to say something different: 1 Cor 15:52, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed...

It looks to me like the distinction is between Christians who live in Corinth and those who live everywhere else. Not sure how you arrived at your conclusion other than a preconceived idea. I tried to find a "spiritual" Israel and a "fleshy" Israel but couldn't find either anywhere. Doesn't...

Paul never mentioned a "new" Israel, but he did say this: Rom 11:26, And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: How can that possible be construed as saying anything about Christians? Israel...

I see in the OT where God said Israel would be kings and priests. True, Hebrews and Peter mention a priesthood, but both of those are written specifically to Christian Jews and as such use Jewish ideas with which they were familiar. Paul never called the body, i.e. Cristians, priests or kings...

I don't think it differs. That's was my point. The other places where it's used don't indicate we need to take it as some hidden spiritual meaning. Maybe I misunderstood you, or maybe the other way around. Not an unheard of situation on these forums. :)

You got me thinking. God made a covenant with a very real group of actual people. God bound Himself to do for those people that which He said H I looked at Vine's. There are actually several secrets, but the one you and I are discussing (I thing anyway) is under (c) and (d). (c) the Church...

It's God's word so I already pay plenty of attention. But I'd still be interested in hearing why you think the word "signify" in Rev 1:1 means something other than what it means in the other verses I quoted. Do you think it mean we shouldn't take the rest of Revelation for saying what they say...

You want to compare my tongue in cheek reply to the golden calf (the actual context or verse 12)? I know you have studied for some time, and I like much of what you post. If you don't mind, I'd like to hear your take on the secret God kept hidden until he revealed it to Paul. How do you see it...

All the verses you quoted are obviously true, but they have a context. The overall context of Romans is stated in Romans 16:25. Namely, Romans is all about the mystery, which is better translated as "secret." In any case it was a secret until God revealed it to Paul. The revelation of that...

Ezek 36:22, Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not [this] for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went. Ezek 36:26, A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put...

I think I know what you are saying, but could you elaborate? How does this whole new level change the meaning of the word "signify" in Rev 1:1 from how it is used in many other verses? I see no reason at all to change it's meaning. If I'm missing something, please let me know. Thanks!

If I understand you correctly, you don't take the plain meaning of words for what they say? It seems you added a lot to a rather simple statement. I'm not sure that the words that Jesus spoke mean anything other than that he came only for the lost sheep of Israel. Why change that into, "Israel...

Jesus came for Israel, not for Christians (Matt 15:24). In fact there were no Christians when Jesus was here, so he wasn't referring to them in his answer to Nicodemus. When Jesus was here, he didn't even know about the secret. That is why in his speech on the coming tribulation he said some of...

I think you're right in saying Paul had hope they'd stop being carnal and grow up in the Lord. Otherwise he would have just let them stay where they were. Obviously he cared very much for them. He certainly wasn't writing them off as a bunch of losers who would be nothing more in the future...