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  1. Naomi25

    The Ones Who Are Left…

    Hi! I’ve heard a couple of takes a little like this, but this is a little different, with the Gnostic, signs and wonders thing tossed in. As I’ve said to them…its interesting. And possibly right. I’m certainly not declaring my understanding of the parable (let alone my ‘idea’ for the thread) to...
  2. Naomi25

    The Ones Who Are Left…

    I don’t deny that there are both lazy and inept bible students out there. But assuming a person is one just because they might disagree with you is a tad presumptuous. In point of fact, I think it very important to be careful how we read a passage, how we compare it, how we consider the words...
  3. Naomi25

    The Ones Who Are Left…

    Hi Jane, thanks for you post, it was most interesting. I’ve had a similar discussion about this parable with backlit. He too believes the parable points to the ‘weeds’ being fake believers. And, this certainly may be the case. However, as I said to him, I don’t know that I’m quite willing to...
  4. Naomi25

    New world order?

    You know; you clearly have a lot of anger on this issue…and there is much underlying here I cannot understand. I cannot share your views. The simple fact is: the “Jews” are people. I don’t care if they reject Christ. So does the world. That makes them ripe for the gospel and the great...
  5. Naomi25

    The Ones Who Are Left…

    No. I don’t believe in a Pre-trib Rapture. I believe in a single return of Christ. And I think the discourse describes this. And please don’t put words in my mouth; I have never said they are “exactly the same”. I said they are almost exactly the same, and anyone reading the two passages side by...
  6. Naomi25

    I'm appealing to all of you,

    You have said, “clearly”: So, to recap. You think ‘organised religions’ are evil, although, your specifications on what ‘organised’ has not truly been spelled out; any group that comes together under any sort of ‘organisation’ would fit the bill, no? That people, all people, even your best...
  7. Naomi25

    I'm appealing to all of you,

    You’ve come on fairly strongly against ‘organised’ religion. That’s a fairly general term, and covers pretty much every sort of gathering together that isn’t just independent house church groups. So, perhaps if that is not what you mean, you could clarify a bit. While you answer the question you...
  8. Naomi25

    New world order?

    Well…perhaps they did not know of what, precisely, was happening to the Jews, but they would have been aware that they were hunted, they were not to be sheltered, protected, supported, etc. Be it their own fear or compliance, so many of those people turned their backs on a whole people group...
  9. Naomi25

    The Ones Who Are Left…

    You say they’re markedly different, but they’re just not. They are “a little” different. And by that, you’d say…a smidge off exactly different. Look. If one said “gather from the heavens” and the other said “gather from the earth”…I’d concede that it’s an interesting difference. The problem, as...
  10. Naomi25

    I'm appealing to all of you,

    No, I’m afraid I don’t have time to read every post, sorry. No one is quite aware of who wrote Hebrews; perhaps it was Paul, perhaps it wasn’t. But considering how OFTEN Paul speaks about those who gather together…about the manner in which they ought to, or ought not to, I think my question...
  11. Naomi25

    The Ones Who Are Left…

    I would see scripture saying the same thing. I have even argued for it. But…I’m unsure that the best way to enter into a conversation is to declare outright that there is zero wiggle room. You’re not going to engage many people in an open conversation that way..it’ll be more a case of two (or...
  12. Naomi25

    The Ones Who Are Left…

    Mostly, I tend to agree with you in regards to the timing on this issue. However, on this thread, I’m attempting to keep an open mind so as to converse more openly with others holding different opinions. The thing is, with all these verses, is that, in a way, they can all be read by bias. Not...
  13. Naomi25

    I'm appealing to all of you,

    Don’t Know that I’ve heard of that, lol!
  14. Naomi25

    "I quite like males with earrings": a low-key, respectful discussion

    Mmm, did have a look…not sure I can vote…feel like I need an “ambivalent” option. I don’t hate the look of guys with piercings, but I don’t love them either. I think, maybe, because the trend here seems to be guys with those great big stretched ear lobes. Now those I don’t like. Ug. Purely...
  15. Naomi25

    I'm appealing to all of you,

    I have my husband for that….:p Only…he likes to get onboard…what do you call that? A duo-logue?
  16. Naomi25

    New world order?

    Agree…we’ve got a big problem with the media today. They’re almost worse than the Pollies. Put them together and we’ve got trouble. Everyone gets incensed if you try and correlate what’s happening now with Nazi Germany. And yes, what happened under Hitler was so, so horrible, and we’re just not...
  17. Naomi25

    The Ones Who Are Left…

    I didn’t SAY Matt 13 was part of the OD! If you go back in the conversation a ways, you will see the references to Matt 13 and the bit where we speak about the OD is a different conversation. They have nothing to do with one another.
  18. Naomi25

    Malachi the Prophet

    Again, all very interesting information…thanks. I’ll check out your website.
  19. Naomi25

    The Ones Who Are Left…

    Mmm. Again, this digs into certain timing issues, which muddies the waters. But, I suppose it was a tad naive of me to think we could leave timing out of it, since it is sort of essential to the end. The problem is, of course, that the debate on timing and order of that timing, has raged for...
  20. Naomi25

    I'm appealing to all of you,

    Good sir….I’m not sure how you can “be aware” of my thinking regarding you. As I said, I have not directly interacted with you before. In point of fact, I have only read one other thing you wrote…it was a brief post. I did not comment on it, but rather made a comment against a person who...