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  1. Rich R

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    He's a good word twister to be sure.
  2. Rich R

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    So God has gone from a personal entity to a thing, an essence? :( Funny that you should bring up twisting other people's words. But, judging from your posts, I guess you're a pro at it so you would notice. Not required. I just wonder about things like most people. You?
  3. Rich R

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    You and I are Christians. Notice I used the word and in bold. That proves we are actually the same person? A pat on the back for cutting and pasting some diagram? I wouldn't break out the champagne too soon if I were you. :) I wonder why the Bible would say it contains all things that pertain...
  4. Rich R

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    John 17 is Jesus praying to God. So you really mean to say that one person talking to another person means they are one and the same entity? That one person asking another person to send something means all three are the same entity?
  5. Rich R

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    Not at all. They get it from the scriptures. No need for man made councils as are required by the trinity.
  6. Rich R

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    You do know there was a specific context about loosing my marbles?
  7. Rich R

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    That makes two of us. Probably my fault, but not sure how. In any case, the only thing missing are some of my marbles! :)
  8. Rich R

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    That makes sense. I'd hate to think he is actually a troll.
  9. Rich R

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    There are two distinctly different subjects in 1 Cor 8:6, God and Lord. "Father" describes God and "Lord" describes Jesus. All things come "from" (Greek ek) God, the Father and "through" (Greek dia) Jesus the Lord. Something can't originate form one source and also pass through that same...
  10. Rich R

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    Good point. It depends on whether "and" is connecting two nouns or two descriptives. I've said that many times myself about someone reading the scriptures with no prior idea that Jesus is God. The idea comes first, and then the scriptures are made to fit the idea. Of course that can't actually...
  11. Rich R

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    That is not how to diagram a sentence, but that's kind of beside the point. What is important is to understand is that using the word "and" to connect two nouns (God and Jesus in this case) does not make those two things one.
  12. Rich R

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    I have to wonder if PinSeeker is a troll. Him and a few others here. They don't seem to care about making sense. They just want to tear down anything that does make sense. I'm pretty sure that's more of less what a troll is. Forgive me if I'm wrong on that.
  13. Rich R

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    I ate an apple and a peach. Was "it" red or yellow? I know. It makes no sense. There is no answer to such a nonsensical idea. You first assume that Jesus is God and then squeeze that idea into the verse so as to fit that assumption. How about their being one God i.e., Yahweh and one Lord i.e...
  14. Rich R

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    I know what you are saying, but technically there are some things God cannot do. Titus 1:2, In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began; There's at least one thing that is impossible with God. There are others, such as: God cannot break His promises...
  15. Rich R

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    A lot better than the mark of the Beast! :)
  16. Rich R

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    Despite the clear statement that God only knew Abraham would obey until the one moment and not before, you still want to interject a preconceived idea. How does that verse not say God didn't know until that moment? So you think I really don't have the free will to write what I write? I'm...
  17. Rich R

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    While you may not consciously use other people's material, I dare say that if anyone who read nothing but the scriptures would conclude that Jesus is God. I think you got that idea because everybody already knows that Jesus is God before ever cracking the book. The idea, as false as it is, is in...
  18. Rich R

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    True enough! It's pretty hard to get into the real meat of the scriptures in a discussion such as take place in these forums. I think we all often just scratch the surface here. Just from our discussion I really have no idea of your fruit, but I trust it is just fine. I would have to know you...
  19. Rich R

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    Why do you suppose God didn't know if Abraham would sacrifice Isaac until the knife was ready to puncture his chest? Gen 22:12, And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine...
  20. Rich R

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    Well, Jesus specifically said he wanted us to be one with them.