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  1. Carl Emerson

    John 8:24, 28, 58 - Jesus Christ IS YHWH

    I think attitude comes into it, and also falling into human loyalty. Intellectual humility is essential as is receiving individual revelation rather than second hand opinion. The temptation in the Garden was around the desire to know. In the Greek they had two words to distinguish what was...
  2. Carl Emerson

    John 8:24, 28, 58 - Jesus Christ IS YHWH

    That does not negate the role of the Holy Spirit in leading us into all truth as Jesus said and John confirmed...
  3. Carl Emerson

    John 8:24, 28, 58 - Jesus Christ IS YHWH

    It isn't a matter of looking, or imagining - it is a matter of hearing what the Holy Spirit reveals.
  4. Carl Emerson

    John 8:24, 28, 58 - Jesus Christ IS YHWH

    Yes... the extreme is when in Islam they write a 'holy' text with chalk, rub it off into a cup add water and drink it. Sadly we have members here who similarly regard the literal text as 'Holy' and miss the deeper meanings.
  5. Carl Emerson

    John 8:24, 28, 58 - Jesus Christ IS YHWH

    I think one of the issues that underpins this discussion is how we view Scripture. It seems some believe that Scripture contains all that can be known about God. Yet Scripture itself makes it clear that man's understanding falls short when it comes to understanding God's ways. Some believe...
  6. Carl Emerson

    John 8:24, 28, 58 - Jesus Christ IS YHWH

    The Name of Jesus is the Name above every name in heaven and on earth and in the age to come. When this sinks in and one agrees that the Father has no greater name than Jesus and therefore no greater authority - things start to make sense. There is no hierarchy in the Godhead. The terms...
  7. Carl Emerson

    John 8:24, 28, 58 - Jesus Christ IS YHWH

    I think I have misunderstood you. I do believe Jesus and the Father are one. I suspect we have not understood each other and I apologise.
  8. Carl Emerson

    John 8:24, 28, 58 - Jesus Christ IS YHWH

    Some have ears to hear, some don't. Have a great day.
  9. Carl Emerson

    John 8:24, 28, 58 - Jesus Christ IS YHWH

    No offence but you are talking nonsense. It wasn't rational thought that led me to that verse... I spent more than 5 years devotionally reading nothing but scripture with no 'Christian' input - So there is a reservoir of His Word at my fingertips. It is far from 'Rational' as you claim. You...
  10. Carl Emerson

    John 8:24, 28, 58 - Jesus Christ IS YHWH

    Being a 'Mystic' and acknowledging that there is a certain mystery to the Godhead are two different things.
  11. Carl Emerson

    John 8:24, 28, 58 - Jesus Christ IS YHWH

    Just as I thought - a game is being played... So you don't need the Holy Spirit to witness to what the Author of Scripture intended to be understood? Just rationalise? I think not... 1 Corinthians 2:14 The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God...
  12. Carl Emerson

    John 8:24, 28, 58 - Jesus Christ IS YHWH

    You cant apply rational analysis to the mysteries of God.
  13. Carl Emerson

    John 8:24, 28, 58 - Jesus Christ IS YHWH

    Jesus is God period.
  14. Carl Emerson

    John 8:24, 28, 58 - Jesus Christ IS YHWH

    Running the risk of being drawn into a game... 10 let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead—by this name this man stands here before you in good health. 11 He is the stone which...
  15. Carl Emerson

    John 8:24, 28, 58 - Jesus Christ IS YHWH

    Similarly James says the Wisdom from Above is reasonable (able to be discussed) so those who present verses only and refuse discussion are not presenting God's Wisdom.
  16. Carl Emerson

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    I doubt if they even thought of it - it was a matter of mucking in and loving people who had met the Messiah.
  17. Carl Emerson

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Yes to all except the last one which doesn't concern me in the slightest. From my time in Israel in the 80's I learned that converts lost their jobs and the family held a funeral for them. So why should I be concerned what they think ? The ministry I was associated with had to pick up the...
  18. Carl Emerson

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    @Peterlag Two verses... Isaiah 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. John 20 26 Eight days later, his disciples were inside again...
  19. Carl Emerson

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    You asked for scriptural support and I posted it in Post #1826
  20. Carl Emerson

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Not problem with "Son of God" as long as it doesn't imply insubordination. The term 'Son' doesn't define the relationship. It is just a word to allow us to discuss a relationship that is beyond our comprehension.